THREAD No. 1: On dying bees and the nature of resistance

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Tod Jones

This is very important, please help.

Honey bees have been dying at alarming rates in the last few years. Recently leaked evidence shows that the E.P.A. ignored critical information when approving a chemical linked to the bee die-off. Sign the petition telling the E.P.A. to ban clothianidin today.

http://act.credoaction.com/campaign/bees/?rc=fb_share1

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    • Addison DePitt This is indeed extremely important and symptomatic of the general crisis spawned by the clash of a human species out of control, operating under a deranged and corrupt system, and nature itself. What gets me is the obvious failure and near total unresponsiveness of the current government (size doesn’t matter in this regard) which approves or is indifferent to problems and dangers that should be its first and foremost raison d’etre. To petition the government once in a while is key to a true functioning democracy—no one is infallible and the governors may lose their compass (I’m talking here about a decent system). But this nonsense of CONSTANT need to petition this rotten government to do the OBVIOUS is symptomatic of the fact it is not governing in the interests of the majority nor of nature. Its illegitimacy derives from its sheer non-representativeness, and the stench comes from its pretensions to still be acting in our name. If literally tens of thousands of individuals just in the US are wise to such things, why aren’t these so-called representatives of the people—surrounded by the full research power of the federal government—” not aware ” of such issues and in need of pressuring and reminding? These things make my blood boil. Like ·  2 people

    • Jenny Kastner Done!3 hours ago · Like

    • Tod Jones Yes…participatory government should not need to be an exercise in unresting vigilance, wherein it must be assumed that our leaders will inevitably act in bad faith until they are found out and shamed into behaving, in those cases where they are still susceptible to shame.2 hours ago · Like

    • Jenny Kastner Maybe it “shouldn’t” be that way, Tod, but it IS. So in order to keep our fragile democracy I would suggest we must be vigilant and constantly in touch with our elected leaders.2 hours ago · Like ·  1 person

    • Tod Jones Yes indeed. That’s how it has to be.2 hours ago · Like ·  1 person

    • Addison DePitt The problem is that, long wrapped in public relationese and other stratagems to fool the masses, all the ruling orders, at least in terms of major policy, grossly misbehave. The almost permanent lack of sync with the interests of the majority is the giveaway that something awfully fraudulent is taking place in the name of “democracy”. 2 hours ago · Like ·  1 person

    • Jenny Kastner Which is precisely why we need to keep speaking up, Addison. :)2 hours ago · Like ·  1 person

    • Tod Jones Yes…there can be no question of either tiring or despairing. Even if this is the Gotterdammerung.2 hours ago · Like ·  1 person

    • Thomas O’Keefe What is even more frightening than this, if that is possible, is that Monsanto is actually genetically engineering the pesticides into plants now, and putting pressure on our government to put pressure on other governments around the world to force them to use their GMO seed. See 
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    • Tod Jones That is monstrous, Thomas. And the fact that NOBODY wants to eat genetically modified food is a matter of complete irrelevance. Here is where a misplaced faith in science and pure reason breaks down. Science, as a matter of fact, is destroying us, as it is the indispensable handmaid of the most ruthless corporate and military masters.about an hour ago · Like

    • Thomas O’Keefe So well said Tod. Some think that science will be mankind’s new savior but science without a conscience, without high ethical standards can only lead to ruin. This is why , in my humble opinion, science and religion (or metaphysical philosophy if you prefer) have to run in tandem of each other and those in those disciplines be mutually respectful of one another.about an hour ago · Like

    • Addison DePitt As usual a very ambitious topical discussion, and one fears filing a comment that will not do it justice. Briefly then, but with serious intent:
    • Basically, they know they have many more resources to lean on than the working masses, and that in the final analysis they also have a substantive amount of raw muscle—police, military, and the mercenary and brainwashed on their side—to put us down. At least momentarily. Or until the whole enchilada sinks of its own. 
    • a highly thought-provoking piece by Charles Young, a colleague of Dave Lindorff. Be sure to read it. It goes to the heart to the issue we’re tangentially debating here. An excerpt: 

Read it in full— https://www.greanvillepost.com/?p=11396