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Nevermind the telling way Aviv constantly uses “us” when speaking of the USA and nevermind the nonsense he spews about the Middle-East returning to peace. What is most interesting is that what we see is one of two things happening:
Option 1: Aviv is echoing something that he has heard from well-informed sources
Option 2: Aviv is part of a campaign to gradually prepare the narrative about Trump being impeached for treason.
A combination of option 1 and 2 is also possible, of course. Either way, this is most interesting.
Also notice the way Aviv fully accepts and endorses the notion that the Russians have some means of pressure on Trump. This is not innocent either, especially not when aired on RT (and provides, if needed, yet another proof that RT is very far, alas, from being a government controlled media outlet) and especially not coming from a person which has the external hallmarks of credibility (thanks to the AngloZionist propaganda we all “know” that Mossad officers are all geniuses with unbelievable IQs and superhuman capabilities).
My experience and gut feeling tells me that this is far from innocent. What I see happening is a preparation for a Trump impeachment on grounds of treason, there I fully agree with Aviv.
Whether Trump realizes it or not, he is now fighting for his life, politically and, probably, literally. And he has only days, maybe weeks, to take very strong action. If he continues to take hit after hit after hit and think that good speeches are going to save him, he is absolutely wrong.
Alas, with Flynn Trump *really* blew it. Flynn, for all his idiosyncrasies and failings, was the kind of man who could have stood by Trump and directed a desperately needed crackdown against the Neocons and their part of the ‘deep state’. Now he’s left with the very status-quo guarantor, non-political McMaster. Pompeo and Mattis are, at best, useless too. And I am really not impressed by Jeff Sessions who does not strike me as the kind of man would could support, nevermind lead, a counter-coup.
As for the notion that Trump is now leaning on Netanyahu for support – I see that as a death sentence for Trump. Netanyahu is an arrogant and incompetent man who has an amazing record of failures and miscalculations. And the US Neocons don’t give a damn about Bibi anyway.
Friends, I am afraid that the Trump Presidency is on life support.
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A treason charge is not possible as this crime only applies when the US is in a formally declared war.
Also, McMaster is probably a stronger NSC appointment than Flynn and is very highly regarded (much more so than Flynn) by a leading member of the “anti-borg” community. I think this is not a sign of weakness..
Pat Lang goes even further and states that a tentative to impeach Trump for treason because working for the Russians, makes Russia an ‘enemy’ for treason to exist, and such an attempt is the same as a declaration of war!
Even the Deep State can’t make a legally-strong case for treason against Trump, as he has done no more fraternizing with Russia than any other POTUS. The Republican Establishment may not like Trump, but they don’t want an impeachment of a Repub POTUS heading into the next election. No point in giving the Dems a leg up. Plus the the US public is not showing any signs of being stampeded by the MSM.
It may be a pressure tactic to get Trump to act ever more irrationally (trying to impossibly prove a negative) so they can try to convince enough of his cabinet, or failing that, 2/3’s of both House and Senate to find him mentally/emotionally incompetent. This news screed apparently coming out of an Israeli/Mossad mouth is intended an emotional blow too, as Trumpy sees himself a protector of Israel and expects support from there, not this.
Larchmonter445 may also be right this is about boxing Trump in so Pence can better play Cheney’s role of the real power behind the throne. That way Trump gets all the blame and the Deep State neo-cons/libs carry on with their intended Clinton/Bush/Soros/Rothchild agenda. The Repub Establishment will think they are in control with Pence, but the Deep State plays both sides of the aisle. Trump will probably remain ensconced as L445 is right, treason impeachment or removal under 25th Amendment Section 4 would have real, dangerous-to-the-staus-quo uprisings, and not run by Soros.
If that comes to pass that Pence runs the show, Trump may actually step down… he doesn’t need the grief (or money, power) and that would be a statement even the Deep State/MSM could not shuck-and-jive away.
” … convince enough of his cabinet, or failing that, 2/3’s of both House and Senate to find him mentally/emotionally incompetent.”
I don’t think that’s necessary. I think the PResident Pro Tem of the Seante can do it. But check Amendment 25. I’d do it and post it here, but I just don’t have time at the moment. Sorry.
Then why post if you aren’t sure. I did read an article quoting the Section directly with a legal analysis of it, seemed reasonable that was the main choices on offer. I’ll admit to working from memory, but the jist of it was that neither impeachment nor using the 25th A/S4 would be quick, easy or even possible given what can be proven Trump has done or how he has acted.
There is always the Alexander Haig “I’m in charge” strategy, but given any legal/procedural attack will not be a complete surprise (we are discussing it right now…) I’d guess the potential means to do so would be well known to all sides.
And no, I’m not going to do your research for you.
That part of article 25 (25th amendment) is below,
It seems to be talking about if the president falls off his horse and hits his head or something, or becomes sick — or maybe goes bananas, but this would be very tricky and not to mean they don’t like his politics or actions — and then it has to pass through the congress (2/3 vote) to put such a palace coup into effect — and that could well result in civil war unless it was obvious the president was disabled. Of course Trump could also challenge this in SCOTUS, which is not likely to hold such a farce to be constitutional.
So it’s not realistic at all — it’s BS obstructionism and propaganda, and obscurantist noise, just like the impeachment nonsense, demonstrating that those who are opposing Trump with this is totally incapable of rational thought or responsible actions — they are like crazy Porky and the Ukrainian rada. The US is turning into Ukraine (and likely many of the same people are behind both disasters).
http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment25.html#annotations
[…] 25th Amendment Annotations
Presidential Succession
The Twenty-fifth Amendment was an effort to resolve some of the continuing issues revolving about the office of the President; that is, what happens upon the death, removal, or resignation of the President and what is the course to follow if for some reason the President becomes disabled to such a degree that he cannot fulfill his responsibilities? The practice had been well established that the Vice President became President upon the death of the President, as had happened eight times in our history. Presumably, the Vice President would become President upon the removal of the President from office. Whether the Vice President would become acting President when the President became unable to carry on and whether the President could resume his office upon his recovering his ability were two questions that had divided scholars and experts. Also, seven Vice Presidents had died in office and one had resigned, so that for some twenty per cent of United States history there had been no Vice President to step up. But the seemingly most insoluble problem was that of presidential inability–Garfield lying in a coma for eighty days before succumbing to the effects of an assassin’s bullet, Wilson an invalid for the last eighteen months of his term, the result of a stroke–with its unanswered questions: who was to determine the existence of an inability, how was the matter to be handled if the President sought to continue, in what manner should the Vice President act, would he be acting President or President, what was to happen if the President recovered. Congress finally proposed this Amendment to the States in the aftermath of President Kennedy’s assassination, with the Vice Presidency vacant and a President who had previously had a heart attack.
[…]Section 3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.
Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
While your points are valid, McMaster’s value is less than Flynn’s due to Flynn’s unwavering loyalty. Is McMaster made of the same stuff as Flynn? AFAIK, it yet to be tested but I certainly hope so.
Sessions’ value will be determined IMO if he goes after #pizzagate. That will be the counter-coup and where the real fight is going to be had.
Thank you! The word “treason” has been tossed about very carelessly thes past couple of years. It is defined in crystal-clear terms in–gasp!–the Constitution!
Trump must expose the pedophile masters who runs the pedophile rings.. the ones that uses blackmail to play their puppets according to their songs. Yes, the puppets must perish too however; the ones that’s playing the cords must be decapitaded. This in my view is almost an impossible task.. thou it’s worth to die for to at least try get rid of this this Saturn cult. Truth be told my gut feeling is Trump is not the man capable of achieving this. President Putin yes, maybe, even for him it’s a “dawn ting” task,without the enlightens (which are few) no one man can succeed. Only a natural “reset” can safe us. This is my humble opinion; I honestly wish nature will say it’s word. Clean the earth with the wrath of its brutal cycle.. no! Not man made and all it’s useless inventions but a natural disaster so big that will eliminate human existence to its a core so only a couple of us is left. Then only peace will and no blood sacrifice no wars for the perverted elite walk amongst the beauty of our existence. That day will come, I wish I was one of the survivors.
I think its a safety protection. Mr Trump is the Trojan horse
I think its a safety prediction. Mr Trump is the Trojan horse
A Trojan horse for what exactly? The Zionist clowns already own the shop, a hundred times over.
The only thing they always are scouting for, are suitable bogey men, scapegoats and sacrificial lambs. At the rate and magnitude they are committing mass-murder, this has become a burgeoning industry in itself.
Don’t take my word, open a newspaper, or switch to NBCCBSCNN, and before you can read a single sentence, hear a single word, they have called you a racist, misogynist, cabbage-hating, anti-semitic, Russian loving Adolf Hitler.
Hilarious!
When the wolves in sheep’s clothing’s talmudic teleprompter gets knocked out by a cosmic force as frightening as Trump’s unpredictability, these freaks go in total melt-down mode and start whining and raving like toddlers who want ice-cream, ice-cream…
Priceless!
this urban moving systems guy gets around
Israeli Mossad Agent on 9/11 & 7/7/05 London Bombings ‘We Did It’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTAf8R2o03U
By repeating it it’s does not get any better
Nonsense, Saker.
There are 500,000 bikers, 30,000,000 gun owners, who have a “vote”.
Washington DC will burn to the ground if impeachment proceedings were brought.
Assassination is far more likely.
But, Trump has virtually pulled back all policy points about Russia.
He dares not call Putin again, much less schedule a meeting.
They have Trump boxed in.
The reason for the rally Saturday was for Trump to demonstrate his popularity.
In spite of your mis-read, which I find amazing that you don’t see this, there are Israelis who want Russia to be attacked. The bomb under the vehicle that killed 4 Russians and wounded 2 others was Israeli-compliant Intel and precision.
Israel is boxed in by S400s and RF airpower in Syria. More than that, Russian gas is going into Europe. The great Israel Leviathan gas field needs a market when it gets developed. Competition is not good for Israel. And the oil in the Golan is another issue. Russia backs Syria’s claim to the Golan and the oil. Eventually, the Golan will go to Syria again.
Then there are the Khazarians in US and Israel who want Ukraine and southern Russia for their resurrected Khanate.
Then there is the regional hegemony Israel thought it had but now Russia has. More than that there is Turkey. Russia has Turkey. Much less, Iran-Turkey-Syria-Russia.
So, all the focus on Russia and Trump’s “treason” is so far-fetched it reminds me of the doomssayers who predict the fall of China, the total collapse of the stock market, the end of the US as a nation.
There is an unaccounted-for rage in Trump’s movement. And if he is “removed”, that rage will make the Senate look like the Ukies armour in the Southern boiler.
No, the Deep State elements don’t need to do the impeachment. Trump is being trapped by his own moves. He has only Jeff Sessions as a weapon. He apparently has spoken to Bolton to help clean up State Dept.
And he brought Chris Christie in (in spite of Jared’s hatred of Christie), and talk is of the NJ governor going after drugs. I suspect he will be a special prosecutor helping Sessions.
Trump has leverage he has not shown. It will be in the DOJ. Federal prosecutors and secret grand juries take time, but are devastating weapons when they strike. Patience . . .
One more thing: Trump never has believed the 9-11 story. Israeli elements are sweating bullets over Trump diving into that conspiracy. Trump knows the buildings were “brought down” not “fell down”. That is his 45-year knowledge base, building construction and demolition.
So, regional hegemony, Ukraine, gas and oil, Golan, 9-11. All Israeli goals.
And then add Trump’s push for peace settlement and two-states?
Israel wants Trump out. Bibi needs him badly. Bibi is in deep shit. Bibi wants a war on Iran and the IDF does not.
This Mossad guy is wish-thinking.
Could elements in the Senate attempt it? They will. Because they can attempt it.
But it will go nowhere.
There have been so many lies about Putin and Russia that no one believes the Fake News any more.
Trump has 50-55% ratings. Congress has 9% and the MSM has 10% (or thereabouts).
One thing you got right: Flynn was a huge tactical error. But they have probably sent Trump “images” of his family dead in plane crashes, car accidents or terrorists slaughter, so he knows they mean to control him.
Deep State is one with the elements in Israel who want Russia gone. So commonality of interests indicates “impeachment” would be salutary warning to any others never to try to become President. They own it and no outsiders will ever be allowed to run again. Impeachment is less bloody, in their minds, and no investigative commission of an assassination would be formed. It looks and sounds easy.
But 65 million voters have a vote. And it will be with bullets not ballots if Trump is “lynched”.
Ever since he entered the primary, Trump has been grossly underestimated by his opposition. That has been–and remains–his greatest advantage. America is deeply divided, with a large block of voters wanting his immediate removal from office and another large block seeing him as a president of the people who can reinvigorate a nation in decline. Should this polar division come to a head by an attempt at impeachment, the smart money IMHO would be on the guy who has a history of overcoming the apparent odds and winning uphill battles. The crowds in the streets–and the celebrities–are clueless, in a state of mindless, emotional frenzy. Meanwhile, Trump’s more serious enemies, the deep state and the MSM, are at their weakest point in many years, having been caught red-handed lying our country into perpetual war. Both of these enemies are now shadows of what they used to be, while Trump is just beginning to hit his stride. In the eyes of this Bernie voter, faithful to the end, you write Trump off at your peril.
Killing or “heart attack” of Russian Ambassador to UN on Mon crossed a red line. Churkin was to preside over improved US-Russia relations.
He was to work w/ Flynn to stop ISIS in Syria. Both Loud critics of ZOG primary foreign policy gambit using ISIS mujahedin to take down Assad and destabilize Syria during Obama’s admin. Now both gone. Trump not only neutered but being bypassed in decision making by Pence; Trump’s Cheney or JFK’s LBJ?
Evidence beginning to mount, the war is on. And it still the neocon war and interests being waged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ivt2NmbyGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3x-WMX45EE
As usual, my friend Larchmonter, your words ring true.
After listening to the entire interview I think this ‘former Mossad agent’ is not what they say he is. For starters no former Mossad agent would refer to US ships in the Persian Gulf as ‘our ships’. Second, in my opinion no former Mossad agent would call Mr. Putin’s actions in regards to Ukraine as ‘expansion in to Ukraine’. Expansion in to Golan ring a bell? Third, he specifically mentioned CNN news as a reference to USA propaganda to ‘turn Trumps’ supporters against him with the impeachment news’. CNN? It is to laugh.
An attempt to impeach Mr. Trump will be so blatantly false that it may well lead to blood in the streets. If it comes to that we’ll see just how good Soro’s little hired thugs are, only this time they will not be fighting against Ukraine Berkut and Militsiya who were fighting them with both hands tied behind their backs. This time it will be pissed of Americans and that is the very last thing you want to do, piss off Americans. Real Americans.
Seems he’s been caught before… Definitely Mossad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWQyQX9CK2g
Auslander: They will not move to impeach President Trump as it would end the Republican Party, and destabilize the United States for the reasons you outlined. Each Republican voting to impeach would face a formidable primary challenge. And the U.S. heartland would become ungovernable.
I’m more afraid of the scenario of Trump standing down himself, rather than getting impeached. An impeachment would lead to a great amount of internal turmoil and would further weaken the US Deep State. A mere resignation, however, would largely neuter the angry Trump backers.
I wish you were right about the bikers. But what will stop them from just staying home, watching football, and drinking beer? Americans are not starving. It is very hard to start a revolution with functioning ATMs and food stamps for everyone. Hunger is the real motivator … as Solzhenitsyn has taught us.
There are 500,000 bikers, 30,000,000 gun owners, who have a “vote”.
Ever wondered why there had been that huge surplus of military equipment, which got distributed amongst the police? I doubt that the reason for purchasing 1.6 billion rounds of ammo for DHS had been because of volume discount. (watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctxTU3Ygs6w; Congressman asks why has DHS purchased 1.6 billion rounds of ammo over the past year? and read https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-04-21/why-is-the-post-office-buying-bullets) If someone assumes authorities would hesitate to “immobilize” threats then think about the Dallas shooter. He was blown up by a bomb mounted to a robot. The state has the bigger guns.
Further check following sources:
https://theintercept.com/2016/10/13/pentagon-video-warns-of-unavoidable-dystopian-future-for-worlds-biggest-cities/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
https://www.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/351235.pdf; Preparing for a complex and uncertain future – Army
Prospects for the future don’t look good.
Larchmonter,
I’m with you. This is political chicken, albeit with enormous stakes. Just like they don’t want to make a martyr out of Trump’s corpse, so they would also rue the day that he is impeached. I’m not saying neither is impossible, just saying we have to do what has to be done if liberty calls. Did we hope for a white knight? Or that we wouldn’t have to put on our black hats and do what was needed?
I think the Anglo-Zionists, especially the latter, have gone va banque(‘for broke’).
They are on the brink of having their evil. misdeeds of the last century exposed –
from Satanic pedophilia, to ‘color revolutions’ and genocide, to assassinations, to currency control and manipulations and the 10 Trillion dollar derivatives theft, as well as the destruction and sell-off of the Soviet Empire.
The retribution which awaits them will be dreadful. If they do not now seize ALL power and destroy ALL their enemies, they will be destroyed.
Apparently, china and russia are calling the bankers’s bluff. Gold buying is back.
http://www.maxkeiser.com/2017/02/putin-gold-buying-is-back-buys-one-million-ounces-in-january/
Both Putin and Xi are taking advantage of an artificially high $US and an artificially low physical gold price. Stacking tonnes of gold against the day Russian Federation/China/SCO/et. al. declare a return to a gold standard at least partially backing their currencies. This will lead to a collapse of the US$-reserve-currency/Bretton Woods/World Bank/IMF/WTO/BIS/Swift/etc. system, so will only be a last-ditch attempt by Russia/China to avoid WW3, which the Deep State/Rothchild/Bilderberg/Davos 0.01% would try to use to impose a Bretton Woods Part Deux, wiping out the 0.01% $20Trillion debt and placing it on the vanquished or borrowing allied countries. Worked after WW2 (Germany is still paying WW2 debt and Russia is about to emerge from USSR debt), so the Deep State figures why not do it again.
BUT… The US Reserve gold vaults are virtually empty (have not been even given a cursory audit since the 1930’s), so the US to meet various demands is having to borrow (gold leasing), buy (the last of Canada’s gold reserves… 1,100 tonnes in the late 1960’s… were sold about the same time as the Dutch got a similar amount of “repatriated” WW2 safekeeping gold in return for the MH17 “report”) and steal (where did Ukraine’s, Libya’s and Iraq’s… to name but a few… gold go after the US invaded/regime-changed each country?).
While the US Fed/EU/Japan simply prints more currency (sorry, Quantitative Easing), Russia and China buy/produce gold…
West nation states may have no gold. However, Rothchild are waiting under the rocks with trillions of bullion with which to buy on the cheap.
I agree with Larchmonter –
Saker, when I saw that Trump was turning to the public to re-enforce his presidency – I thought it was like Putin, who had the public behind him but not the deep state.
I’m hoping that there are others behind Trump than just flimsy Flynn, who for Unknown reasons was taken away.
Trump has powerful friends behind him…who helped him decide to put Flynn down.
And I’m not convinced Pence is Trump’s enemy either. He might be a strong VP>
VPs traditionally do little until the President is incapacitated. That changed with Cheney, who was the real President to Bush’s playing the part. Trump should decide who is President, him or Pence.
No, it was around when rockefeller supervised the ford regime and bush sr supervised the raygun regime. Lately, it seems to be one of those republican things. Counting the bush jr regime, and now trump’s, that makes 4 of the last 5 republican regimes run by the VP.
@ Larchmonter445:
“[..] But 65 million voters have a vote. And it will be with bullets not ballots if Trump is “lynched”.”
That’s the thing, isn’t it?
I’m religiously doing the rounds and reading comments from the gun-toting MAGA people all over the net, and they’re in no mood whatsoever to put-up with the arrogant ‘Deep State’ disposing of their: ‘yes-my-president’ Trump in any way shape or form.
Trump’s bedrock wasn’t Flynn (is not even Bannon or whoever else anybody cares to mention) it is the people who voted for him. His supporters are largely well armed, and they’re not necessarily dangerous, but they can turn dangerous if pushed over the edge, and they already feel they’ve been pushed back enough as it is close to a cliff.
They’re ready to go ‘nuclear’ if anything happens to Trump (or his family). And it doesn’t have to be anything physical happening to him [Trump]… impeachment under bogus charges would be just as bad.
That’s what I’m reading out there, anyways….
Additionally; that very issue was brought-up briefly on one of the latest Cross Talk shows, only they’ve framed it as a possible civil war in America, which is what it would be if that were to happen.
Meanwhile… the Soros-sponsored snowflakes rallying against Trump, usually reside in the so-called Clinton/Democrat belt, those are mainly the wealthy areas on both cost lines, places that traditionally tend to be gun-allergic too. Hmmm… what could possibly go wrong here?
Can you imagine them on the trenches, fighting against; rough, “red-neck,” arms-trained, farming middle Americans?
-TL2Q
To me it looks as though Mossad and the neocons are intending, with this sort of threat, to force Trump to go to war against Russia, whether he likes it or not.
I suppose that this is their way of doing things and nothing unusual since they are mafia. And, they are bent on ruling the World and making servants of us all – so they have said many times.
They are that stupid!
They won’t go against RF directly in Eurasia. They will try to use the Syria war and the bases in Syria as the targets. That is possible for the West to deal with. Attacking Russia itself, no. They lose. The world ends.
I suspect these hyper Pentagon types like McMaster and Mattis only can handle small operations.
They pretend to be strategic theatre generals, after all, 3 and 4-Stars indicates you can do more than one town in the desert. But the US can’t fight major land wars. They certainly won’t put US troops into them. Look at how Mosul is going. The Iranian militias broke the back of the outer rings and pierced the defenses. Then the Kurds and Iraqis entered the larger villages and towns. Now, they creep closer, but it is tedious. With real US military power, they should have been able to overwhelm ISIS and panic them. This is the fourth month of the Mosul operation. You would think there was a million ISIS fighters there. It’s got a few thousand. Flat terrain. No air defenses. That’s like both hands tied behind ISIS’ backs.
The US generals are adverse to losses and don’t have the zeal or morale to fight to victory. Most of them have one or two battles in their careers, generally at a command level far from the guns. But they get credit and medals and citations.
Givi and Motorola had more battle experience (all successful). In the US scheme of things, both would be 4-Stars. In Donbass, they were Colonels.
Everything is relative. Starting a war with Russia really means hurting Russia far from home.