The Strange Timestamp In The New Novichok ‘Evidence’ – UPDATED
DISPATCHES FROM MOON OF ALABAMA, BY “B”
PREFATORY NOTE
See Britain's PM, Theresa May, Back in March 12, 2018, and again on Sept. 5, 2018, in her utmost officialese accent accusing Russia of criminal acts on British soil, as part of Britain's effort to smear Russia, without a shred of evidence, and in close coordination with Washington and other NATO members. Now the same script is being revived, after months of silence and erosion of its credibility. Why? For one thing the Brits and Washington want to build a case to expel Russia from the Security Council. For another, they seek to blacken Moscow's reputation to permit an expansion of their criminal activities in Syria, the broader Middle East and other flash points, including the Ukraine. In the immediate future, they want to use this smear campaign to justify their reckless and lawless involvement in Idlib, soon to become a major battle between the two contending blocs—one headed by the US, the other by Russia, who wishes to aid Damascus in stamping out the jihadist plague once and for all. WashIngton and its NATO accomplices, on the other hand (including Israel) want to keep the jihadists in place, as proxies to be used in future mayhem against Syria and Russia's allies in the region. In any case, this is just a blatant case of false flagging, a cynical psyop mounted and executed by the Western intel services, with the full backing of top politcians in the Atlanticist union, from Trump to Macron and Theresa May, who plays a vital role. Prostitutes of the empire don't come much more revolting than that.—PG
and Sept 5 (video supplied by TASS, using some material furnished by London police).
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Here's a good rejoinder by a reliable leftie, Jimmie Dore. He ran this show on March 14, 2018, a couple of ays after Britan's bombastic accusations. Note the mainstream media was at first proclaiming the Skripals had been killed—yea, dead—by the attack. Later it emerged they had not been killed and were alive and recuperating from a supposedly "ultra lethal" nerve agent developed by those awful Russians. (Every major power has developed these compounds, and to this day it is the US that leads the pack in NOT destroying its stocks of deadly gas and chemical weapons.) How could the authorities not distinguish whether the Skripals were alive or dead for more than 72 hours? Are there no qualified doctors in Britain? These and many other details demonstrate the sheer cynicism of this latest stunt by the West and their pathetic shoddiness in execution.
And here we resume Moon of Alabama's regular dispatch.
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Please read the Update highlighted below.
Today, at a politically convenient moment, the British government released new information about the poisoning of the British spy Sergej Skripal, his daughter, and three other persons. It claims to have identified two men with Russian passports who arrived in London from Moscow on March 2, went to Salisbury on March 3 on a 'reconnaissance' trip, came back to Salisbury on March 4 to put Novichok poison on the doorknob of Skripal's home and flew back from London to Moscow on the same day. The names of the men were given as Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov which are Russian language equivalents of Joe Smith and Sam Jones. These names are likely false.
The police says that CCTV pictures were taken at several steps of the men's travel. The British news agency Reuters seem to distribute these. Several media have picked up copies.
Here are screenshots of two CCTV pictures, taken from an 18 picture gallery in a report by The Independent headlined Salisbury poisoning suspects are Russian state assassins, Theresa May tells MPs.
These are pictures 7 and 8 of a 18 picture gallery within that piece.
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Pic 7 of 18 - full, uncropped screenshot
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Pic 8 of 18 - full, uncropped screenshotThe pics are also available at the Metropolitan police site: 1, 2.
Notice that the time stamp on both pics is identical, 02/03/2018 16:22:43. But the pictures show two different men, each walking alone through the same part of a jet bridge as they arrive in Britain. How can it be that both of these pictures were taken at the exactly same second? And who tilted the permanently installed CCTV camera between the two shots? How did the camera angle change between picture one and two which were apparently taken at the very same place and at the very same time?
If these two pictures can not be trusted how much can one trust the other CCTV pictures the Met showed to support its claims?
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UPDATE Sept 6 - 5:20 UTC
Here is the answer to the above questions. In the North Terminal of Gatwick Airport, at the northern end of arrival level zero, there are several parallel and apparently identical gates leading into the airport. Each of these has a camera.
Thanks to Bruce Leidl who found the above picture in Google maps.The two pictures above with identical timestamps were taken in two of these gates with each of the 'Russian assassins' passing through one of them at the same time. Aeroflot flights from Moscow are serviced at the North Terminal.
End of the Update - the original text continues below.
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The full statement of the Metropolitan police is here. Excerpts of Prime Minister Theresa May's statement are here.
While May claims the two men were send by Russia's military spy service GRU, the Metropolitan police makes no such claims. Theresa May does not say on what evidence she based her conclusion. There seems to be none.
It also seems a bit curious that a 'Russian assassin' team, allegedly from a highly professional secret service, would travel together and use direct flights from Moscow to London and back. That seems extraordinary careless. Why not fly separate and via a third country?
And why would a professional assassin team drop a cellophane wrapped, unopened perfume bottle with the same poison into a charity bin behind shops in Catherine Street in Salisbury where Charlie Rowley would find it some 14 weeks(!?) later?
The police says that it found traces of Novichok in the crappy hotel the 'Russian agents' stayed in between March 2 and March 4. It found those traces on May 4 but it waited until today to publicly ask other guests at the hotel to contact the police?
If the incident was a professional assassination attempt with a highly potent 'Novichok' compound why did 4 out of 5 people who came into contact with it survive? The 80% failure rate is inconsistent with the scary tale about the highly potent 'Russian' Novichok poison. A decent dose of Megachok is probably more lethal.
Sergej Skripal has not been seen in the public or even on video since the incident happened. His daughter Yulia Skripal appeared in a British government hostage video but then vanished. The Russian Embassy in London says that it has no access to them. The policeman, who allegedly was also injured during the incident, also never reappeared in public. Why are these people held incommunicado and under arrest?
A torrent of doubts among the readers: see a sampling of responses
SELECT READER COMMENTS
Novichok is also damn durable, and the room cleaning in English hotels is not that great: traces of Novichok were found two months after the alleged agents checked out. But hotel guests were not affected.
Posted by: Piotr Berman | Sep 5, 2018 1:52:11 PM | 2
I watched the police present the timeline and can't help but wonder. on the surface it seems excellent police work. it is also somewhat shocking just how much cctv they have in England but that is passed over without comment by most. The police seem to know everything about these two people. I wonder why they did not contact them. They should have addresses and such since their passports were scanned at immigration. Oddly there is no mention of the police calling the numbers or asking the Russian police to go by their homes and ask them to account for their travel to Salisbury. nothing.
what if those people actually exist and they can explain everything? If the people with the same names and addresses of those in the passports are completely different people then there is absolutely no reason to blame Russia since the two guys in England were using assumed identities. Seems to me that a detective would want to go the final mile.
the police presentation was well done and those who easily agree with the government line will feel better. For the rest of us remain too many questions.
someone once said that if you must tell a lie, make it a huge lie, for if it is just a little lie people will question it whereas if it is huge people will think that something so big must be the truth. that must be what is happening here.
Posted by: dan of steele | Sep 5, 2018 1:54:54 PM | 3
I was going to note the continued use of weasel words by the UK officials, such as : "almost certainly", but the use of weasel words have apparently been baked into the plot at this stage, that is they have been gamed as the domaIn of the sceptical:
According to the original descriptions of the effects of "Novichok", from the Soviet scientists involved with it thirty years ago, both of these alleged agents should have died from the alleged trace release in their hotel room, the Skripals should have died on their driveway, as should have the policeman. This ridiculous story is not meant to be "solved", it is meant to serve as a blunt tool for geopolitical positioning directed at both a designated rival but also to herd the civilian population. It is the UK equivalent of the (deliberately unsolved) anthrax letters in the US in 2001.
Posted by: jayc | Sep 5, 2018 2:06:12 PM | 4
thanks b... good sleuthing on your part.. your questions go to the heart of the situation as well..
the uk and west are so predictable at this point in time.. anything to blame russia will do..
Posted by: james | Sep 5, 2018 2:08:45 PM | 5
The pictures of the 2 men released by the the Police are said to be from their passports. I have just taken a quick look at the Wikipedia page for Russian passports -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_passport#The_Russian_Federation
Note that on the non biometric passports the pictures have a seal over them, whilst the biometric passports do not. This indicated the passports are biometric. Not only do we not have the actual images of the passports, we do not have the biometrics either. Given that this information would be valuable in finding these "suspects" and would not in any way jeopardize the investigation, I can only conclude that either a) the Police know these are not actual suspects or b) the Police are deliberately withholding vital information, either way I believe this amounts to an Attempt To Pervert The Course of Justice which is a very serious criminal offence.
Posted by: TJ | Sep 5, 2018 2:12:22 PM | 6
According to establishment man Brian Whitaker of Guardian fame they are in different tunnels at the same time.
So they managed to get flights from Moscow to Heathrow arriving at the same time and managed to disembark at the exact same time. Right you are mate.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 5, 2018 2:13:08 PM | 7
Where did they stay in England ? How did they get visas what info real or not they provided to get it? Did they visit spot at or near areas of supposed attacks? Are there any witnesses who publicly identify them at the time of supposed crime, What language they spoke, must have interacted talked with U.K. Immigration, when and where did they leave exactly and what flight, if names are fake why not contact people with those names in Russia and ask them, see how they look? Verify if they traveled to England.
Just few basic questions before any real Analysis can start otherwise as I see it it is so vague info so no one can enter any reasonable path of verification of those so far random faces accused of ... actually what exactly we do not know how it was done and with what as symptoms indicate strong version of synthetic opioids or shellfish toxins, not weponized nerve agent.
That is the basic propaganda method description as vague as possible to feed or spread rumors only to attack them with some hidden/made up facts if Analysis by others comes to close to truth.
Corruption in security apparatus is so bad that they even are set up to believed their own lies.
Posted by: Kalen | Sep 5, 2018 2:18:04 PM | 8
@Bob 7
More over at OffGuardian-
https://off-guardian.org/2018/09/05/skripal-case-suspects-named-questions-raised/
Posted by: TJ | Sep 5, 2018 2:19:23 PM | 9
Another problem?
The camera alignment is slightly different on each shot.
If you switch quickly between pics, you can easily see that the orientation is slightly different. Pic7 is vertical, Pic 8 is slightly turned. (I use two browser tabs so the pics are the same size, they click on each one quickly in succession.)
Alternatively:
On pic 8 you see the top of the door on the left and the side of a sign (red line) on the right.
On pic 7 you don't see the top of the door and you see the top left corner of the sign (red) on the right.
Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 5, 2018 2:20:14 PM | 10
Beyond doubt uk ect ect have trained spy's in Russia some home grown some Russian. The Salisbury fake flag would would have used these deliberately to leave a false 'paper trail' similar to the 'polonium' trail in a previous false flag !
Posted by: Mark2 | Sep 5, 2018 2:22:00 PM | 11
This is so ludicrous - according to some Russian media the UK refuses to hand over additional information to the Russians, like fingerprints and passport-numbers. The UK should have these informations as these two "top-trained GRU agents" applied for a tourist visa in Moscow - imagine that.
Besides it also looks that both names are in Russia pretty equivalent names like John Smith in the US. Apparently there are over 70'000 Alexander Petrov just in the russian social media.
I also have been following some of the reader comments in the GB media, it looks some of the readers are just rediculing May as needing again distraction from the Brexit fiasco and more and more seem to become angry, because they feel being taken for stupid.
Posted by: Fran | Sep 5, 2018 2:22:41 PM | 12
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Up next, a false flag chemical attack in idyllic Idlib and the predictable FUKUS response to save those brave freedom fighters. It is so predictable. The only question, will novichok be used in Syria to complete the circle.
Posted by: Tom | Sep 5, 2018 1:47:50 PM | 1