What are Putin and Macron up to?
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This is the big RT headline: Putin and Macron agree on measures to halt escalation in Ukraine.
Here is a machine translation of the official French statement:
Telephone interview with Vladimir PUTIN, President of the Russian Federation.
The President of the Republic held a telephone conversation with the President of the Russian Federation, Mr. Vladimir PUTIN, on Sunday, February 20.
They agreed on the following points :
– the resumption of work under the Normandy format on the basis of exchanges and proposals made by Ukraine in recent days.
– intensive work to allow the holding of a trilateral contact group meeting in the coming hours with the objective of obtaining from all stakeholders a ceasefire commitment on the line of contact.
– the need to give priority to a diplomatic solution to the current crisis and to do everything possible to achieve it. For this, intensive diplomatic work will be conducted in the coming days and weeks. The Minister for Europe and Foreign Affairs, Mr. Jean-Yves LE DRIAN, will meet with his counterpart Mr. LAVROV in the coming days and several consultations will be held in Paris to this effect.
– this diplomatic work should make it possible to make progress on the basis of the latest exchanges by involving all stakeholders (Europeans, allies, Russians and Ukrainians) in order to lead, if the conditions are met, to a meeting at the highest level with a view to defining a new order of peace and security in Europe.
– in order to conduct this work in serious conditions, the two Heads of State made firm commitments to take all necessary actions to avoid escalation, reduce risks and preserve peace.
So what is going on here?
First, the obvious: Macron wants to win the upcoming presidential election in France and being the “savior of Europe” would give him something to brag about.
Second, the no less obvious: Macron is trying to bypass his Anglo “partners” since neither the US nor the UK want anything short of an open Russian military intervention in the Ukraine. Notice the words “all stakeholders (Europeans, allies, Russians and Ukrainians)” which mentions neither the US nor the UK ( here “allies” is just an empty but politically correct placeholder term).
Third, and that is obvious too: the Anglos don’t give a damn about Macron or his plans.
Which all begs the question: why does Putin even bother?
The answer, however, points to a different kind of logic on the Russian side.
First, Putin and Lavrov have as a policy to talk to (almost) everybody (“Ze” being the current exception). This is the Russian way of diplomacy: talk to mutual mortal enemies like Israel and Iran, and talk to non-entities like Schultz or Truss. The Kremlin does not care how hard Lavrov or Putin need to “hold their mental noses” when talking to dishonorable, cowardly, liars if that gets them some tangible benefit (more about that in a sec).
And the Russians will always do everything in their power to avoid war, small or big.
Folks in the West are used to “western diplomacy” in which you only talk (i.e. “give orders”) to your colonies, never talk to your opponents (who are always demonized) and where NOT negotiating is seen as a sign of “strength”.
In Russia not negotiating as a principle is seen as simply stupid and counter-productive.
Furthermore, while Macron clearly wants to repeat the “feat” of Zarkozy who claimed (falsely!) to have stopped the 08.08.08 war, the Russians see another very tangible benefit of talking to Macron: creating even more divisions in the West as a whole and in Europe specifically.
Consider this: the Russian ultimatum has already had a lot of highly positive effects:
- The US/NATO, after years of totally ignoring Russia, are not only willing to talk to the Kremlin, they are even picking up past Russian proposals and presenting them as their own.
- Europe is afraid, very afraid. Not only of a major war with all that implies (including waves of refugees), but also from an energetic/economic collapse in case the US/UK prevail.
- The Ukros in power have suddenly realized that they might be targeted. Personally. Hence the flight of Ukie oligarchs to the EU and “Ze” “trip to Europe to participate in the Munich conference”.
- The Chinese now see that Russia is committed (I will clarify to what exactly below) and are throwing their considerable weight behind Russia.
You could use a Russian expression and say that Putin stuck a big stick in the West’s “anthill” and the said ants are now running around like crazy.
In that one single move, Russia achieved more than over several decades and, so far, she achieved that at a truly small price.
Having said that, I need to repeat something crucial here:
==>>This is NOT, repeat, NOT about the LDNR or even the Ukraine.<<==
Russia (and China!) wants a different multi-polar world order, one based on the full sovereignty of all countries, one in which international law serves as the basis for relations between sovereign states, one in which security is always defined and understood as collective security and one in which the United Nations remain the sole top authority to enforce the rules of international law.
The Kremlin often says that it wants a new security arrangement in Europe. And that is true. But, let’s not be naive here, the US domination over its European colonies is the cornerstone of Anglo world domination, so if the US/UK “lose” Europe, they will be finished as wannabe world hegemons.
The Russians and the Chinese are now leading the entire Zone B towards this goal by a careful mix of unilateral policies including the gradual de-dollarization of Eurasia and the energy markets, military pressure on the US and its colonies and by developing their REAL economies (as opposed to the West’s FIRE economies).
Okay, but what does that mean in practice?
That is too early to tell.
First, let’s see what, if anything, comes out of the French initiative.
Second, Macron’s initiatives will have zero impact on the LOC in the LDNR were exchanges of fire are constantly taking place but where, at least so far, the Ukies did not launch a ground assault across the LOC. But they might, literally any second now, both sides are fully prepared for such an event.
Then there is the very real risk of a major false flag event organized by the Anglos. The entire AngloZionist propaganda machine is now poised to instantly “pick up” such a false flag and blame it all on Russia. I don’t see how Macron could do anything about that, even assuming he wanted to in the first place.
So let’s not jump to conclusions and see what happens next week with both Macron and Blinken.
In the meantime, the Ukies are trying to scare the planets with rumors about them ditching their non-nuclear status and develop nukes. Please do not worry about that, at most what the Ukies can do is make a “dirty bomb”, but they exactly *zero* change to ever acquire real nukes (and, besides, if such a risk was even remotely real, Russia would take any and all actions to eliminate any such possibility).
The Ukies also sent a diversionary group into the LDNR but the local state security quickly intercepted them: 1 Ukie dead, one taken prisoner. Two lightly wounded in the LDNR special forces. Below is the video of that anti-terrorist operation.
Andrei Raevsky is editor in chief of The Saker network of sies dedicated to geopolitical analyses of the East-West conflict.
Feb 20, 2022
MGB SPECIAL FORCES LIQUIDATED A GROUP OF UKRAINIAN TERRORISTS! FOOTAGE OF A REAL BATTLE!
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JimG on February 20, 2022 · at 1:38 pm EST/EDT
I’m more optimistic. Germany, France, and the Ukraine lose big time if they go with US sanctions. Ukraine would lose what it has of its gas transport business and army, Inflation would kill Europe, Germany would go bankrupt, and next the US will then turn on China, who Europe does want to trade with. What does the US have that Europe needs? Gas? This is extortion, and the Europeans know it, and I think they really do want to get around the US and they can do it with the new Normandy format. The Ukraine will put in writing they do not intend to get into NATO, and there will be something on group security. They have already decided something or they would be meeting. Europe understands Russia’s idea of group security. Can you imagine, no more currency wars? We’d have a lot of wasted military equipment we wouldn’t need, but it’s all obsolete now anyway. Boy did Congress get conned, and we get to pay for it. Macron is negotiating on behalf of the Ruling Caste of America and the Collective West. Anton Gorbatow on February 20, 2022 · at 1:58 pm EST/EDT
I don’t understand how Macron (and Germany) can address Russia’s security demands without USA’s cooperation and agreement.
FRANCO-GERMAN CALL ON FRANCE TO LEAVE NATO AND BOLSTER P5 Two former officials of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the German Peter Dittus and Frenchman Hervé Hannoun, released an extraordinary statement in the French publication Marianne on Feb. 11, calling for France to leave NATO, asserting that NATO under American leadership is prepared to sacrifice Europe, and perhaps the world, to maintain its past glory as the world’s unipolar controller of all things economic and strategic. These two are not “anti-war activists,” rather, they are French and German leaders within the establishment. They assert that the clearly “unprecedented brainwashing conducted by the United States and NATO on the theme of the ‘imminent Russian invasion of Ukraine’” may well “go down in history as an episode of disinformation along the lines of the fabricated intelligence on Saddam Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction in 2003.” The antics of NATO chief Jens Stoltenberg, they add, is reminiscent of the “famous Orwellian inversion: ‘Peace Is War.’” They write: “The military escalation is dangerous. For the security of the French people, it is necessary to exclude committing the French army under the banner of NATO in a war in Ukraine or Belarus. To put an end to the current confrontation, President Macron should simply declare solemnly in the name of France that his country will oppose any request from Ukraine to join NATO. Thanks Saker for providing sane open space here and particularly for your stimulating analyses. My own take is that Macron is also trying to prevent the Ukrainization of Western Europe. Let me first explain what I mean by Ukrainization of Europe. Politico in Ukraine claimed in the Verkhona Rada (spelling?) that Biden’s war hysteria + propaganda already impoverished Ukraine. $12 billion Investment fled to the West and the $4 billion loaned by Ukraine benefactors USA, Britain, Japan, France & Canada can not make up for the $12 billion lost. Plus he says that the recent out dated arms shipments were sold or loaned grossly overpriced and it made the Western MIC happy but Ukrainians poorer. Canada and other, Ukraine “benefactors” are getting rid of their obsolete and outdated inventory at gross overprices. It is not donations or gifts but sales and will be useless to face newer Russian tech. Like I stated, the overpriced, overstocked weapon shipments from Canada, USA, UK, etc will likely be re sold in the black market….they are useless against a superpower like Russia. Zelensky has no choice and he is not in charge in the Donbas or Luhansk…..he is powerless against Russia or USA. Brandon channeling Obamba, is in charge via his proxies in Lviv ( Lvov). IMO, the imminent invasion hoax was cover for USA, UK, Canada, etc…..to pull out all US, UK & Canadian Forces out of harms way without the appearance of kow towing to Russian demands to get NATO out of Ukraine. Russia will not engage in small weapon firefights….the rebels might while defending their homes but not Russia. The vaunted stingers and javelins are going to find their way in the black market and re sold to Africa & Middle East. This will increase the oligarchs bank accounts. Russia is not going to invade and even if it did it is going to incinerate NAZI battalions in their trenches and foxholes with Burantino flame throwers and TOS thermobaric munitions from a distance…..there will not be any chance to use the javelins or stingers against RF. Russia is focused on its security demands from USA / NATO. Brandon already retreated to the Westernmost tip of Ukraine, Lviv or Lvov, in practice ceding Eastern Ukraine to Putin without a fight. But instead of retreating from Baltics, Poland and Romania per Putin’s demands NATO is reinforcing with token military and equipment deployments. According to halturnerradioshow.com Russia already started jamming icbm launch detection early warning radars from western powers plus jamming GPS & high frequencies used by USA to communicate with USA forces worldwide……this gives USA less time to detect launches of ICBMs. These might be some initial reciprocal technical-military countermeasures that Russia stated they will apply until situation is corrected…..They had started jamming GPS signals a week ago with Israel…..so it was stated that Israel aviation born cruise missiles or glide bombs (not sure here) were incapable of hitting targets in Syria…..Israel complained to Russia and Russia stated this condition will remain in place for security protection of Russian servicemen. Israel tried to raise the sensitivity of its iron dome and air defences and what it causes is that the radar screens start to see multiple ghost images of missiles everywhere….not good! a couple of days ago, Israel admitted that a Hezbollah reconnaissance drone flew 70 km inside Israel and returned safely to southern Lebanon despite Israel throwing the kitchen sink at it. There is fear in Macron, of the impending Ukrainization of Europe. Sorry to be so long winded. All the best and may there be peaceful solution. CitizenSmith on February 20, 2022 · at 2:37 pm EST/EDT
The US is Europe’s enemy, not Russia. It is time that Europe adjusted its security architecture and its trading relationships to reflect that reality. Nebula Nomad on February 20, 2022 · at 2:37 pm EST/EDT
Russia has said that US troops have to leave Central and Eastern Europe. That is NOT an ambiguous statement! |
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