Rob Kall interviews Paul Craig Roberts (AUDIO)

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P.C. ROBERTS

The interviewer: Rob Kall is executive editor, publisher and site architect of OpEdNews.com, Host of the Rob Kall Bottom Up Radio Show (WNJC 1360 AM), President of Futurehealth, Incinventor . He is also published regularly on the  Huffingtonpost.com

The interviewee: Paul Craig Roberts

    • professor of economics,
    • associate editor and columnist for WSJ
    • congressional staff on House and Senate,
    • Assistant secty for the treasury for economic policy under Reagan
    • President of a water company.
    • Has run a small research organization
    • Has published nine books
    • Syndicated Columnist for Scripps Howard

on board of directors for a multinational company

Reagan Administration earning fame as a co-founder of Reaganomics.”[1] to being something of an outspoken tribune of the people? His other creds are equally establishmentarian and right wing, which only adds to the mystery.  He is a former editor and columnist for the Wall Street JournalBusiness Week, and Scripps Howard News Service. More in character, Roberts has been a critic of both Democratic and Republican administrations. And having been an insider, Roberts knows how the game is played. Paul Craig Roberts’ trajectory either shows that just about anyone can find redemption from evil, or that miracles do happen…—PG

Dollar is now worth one Swiss Franc (could buy four Swiss Francs for a dollar in 1972.

So much of our so-called imports are offshored productions of our own firms. You can do anything for a trade deficit when you are producing offshore.

That erodes the tax base for federal, state and local governments.

The eroded tax base affects revenue collections which are down.

Then, they give more tax cuts to the mega rich, CEOs and corporations.

These deregulations, have led to a complete open financial market where anything and everything goes. They leverage debt

Paul: Laissez-faire model of Greenspan– the idea that the market regulates itself better than the regulators.

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PCR on the media:

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The senate is owned by Wall Street, the military, insurance, AIPAC, agribusiness, and the pharmaceuticals- those are the people who make all the decisions. They write all the bills that the president signs. Even when I was a congressional staffer in the seventies the bills were written by executive branch agencies and the lobbyists. That was true 35 years ago.

The hypocrisy is just massive.

American government people have no shame, no integrity. They do not represent the people.

On Mideast revolutions:

I would buy the story that Twitter or Facebook enabled the opposition. I think the power rests on the fact that people had nothing else to lose and they were scared.

I think if the Egyptians and Libyans had been armed, things would have happened much quicker. In Egypt, they got rid of Mubarak, but the ruling class is still in place.

I think that everything that takes away power from people is a police state action.

Rob, we have to get rid forever of this neoconservative goal of hegemony over the world. All our policy of sustaining dictatorships must go. All of a sudden diversity appears in the world and we get free of a massive economic budget drain.

It destroys diversity. It homogenizes everything.

Rural life disappears. You get the appearance of massive slums because farms are replaced by megafarms and single crops. This is the reason for the slums in all the cities.

Sir James Goldsmith— wrote this thing called “THE TRAP” — he was the biggest warrior for ordinary people that I know of.

Globalization is based on the crazy, perverted idea of free markets.

Ever since the Clinton administration the media is so concentrated and is no longer run by journalists at all.

Rob: Wikileaks should get a Nobel prize.

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Wall Street Journal flaunts its support for dictatorship

The laying bare of the real nature of American operations makes the political and media establishment anxious. 

19 February 2011 [print_link]

The ongoing tumultuous events in the Middle East and North Africa have further exposed the claim that the US government has an interest in democracy anywhere in the world. Outraged populations have risen up against one brutal regime after another that has been armed, financed and maintained by Washington—Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain and beyond.

The goal of American foreign policy, more clearly revealed than ever, is to defend the wealth and strategic interests of the US corporate-financial oligarchy.

This has not been lost on great numbers of people, in the US and elsewhere. The laying bare of the real nature of American operations makes the political and media establishment anxious. For various historical reasons, US imperialism has previously dressed up its predatory operations in the guise of bringing “freedom and democracy” to various peoples. As Trotsky remarked derisively in 1924, “America is always liberating somebody, that’s her profession.” (After all, “Operation Iraqi Freedom” and “Operation Enduring Freedom” are the official names used by the US governments for its occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, respectively.)

Only someone not right in the head, however, could pretend that supporting dictators like a Ben Ali (Tunisia), a Mubarak (Egypt), or a Saleh (Yemen) is a liberating act. These figures have presided for decades over regimes that routinely arrest, sadistically abuse and murder political opponents, suppress workers in the interest of foreign and domestic corporations, and generally terrorize their populations, while engorging themselves, their families and cronies with riches.

The editors of Rupert Murdoch’s Wall Street Journal have therefore felt it necessary to come to the defense of the dictatorships propped up by Washington. In an editorial February 16 (“Egypt and Iran”), the Journal uses the occasion of police repression by the Iranian regime to make the case for US-backed dictators.

This is a grotesque lie. The Journal chooses to forget that Mubarak and Egypt’s military lived by and through violence, with the full backing of “the West,” for three decades. Far from pressuring the Egyptian government to “shun violence,” Washington enlisted Egyptian officials to torture US-held prisoners as part of Washington’s rendition program in the “war on terror.”

We will spare the reader descriptions of the barbaric methods of torture employed by the Egyptian state against its real and imagined enemies. Its prisons, by all accounts, rang with screams. The regime killed thousands and imprisoned tens of thousands, at a conservative estimate.

In the last days of Mubarak’s rule alone, the military “secretly detained hundreds and possibly thousands of suspected government opponents … and at least some of these detainees have been tortured,” according to human rights activists cited by the Guardian on February 9.

Nonetheless, the Journal continues shamelessly, “To put it another way, pro-American dictatorships have more moral scruples.”

The implicit claim that the Egyptian army is refraining from a crackdown on popular protests and strikes due to its “moral scruples” is absurd. If it has so far abstained from drowning popular resistance in blood, it is because it faces a millions-strong mass movement and dares not pursue such a policy.

The generals in Cairo and their overlords in Washington fear that, with such an assault, they might provoke a revolutionary response. The military is therefore biding its time, preparing its forces, hoping that official and petty-bourgeois “opposition” forces will demobilize popular protests and allow them to re-establish control of the situation.

The timing of the Journal’s article was unfortunate, however. Within 24 hours of the editorial’s appearance, one of those “scrupulous,” pro-American dictatorships in Bahrain, an island nation whose people lives in the shadow of the US Navy’s Fifth Fleet, launched a lethal assault on protesters gathered in the capital city’s central square.

Officially, five were killed, although 60 are missing, and some 250 people injured, by batons, rubber bullets and pellets fired from shotguns. The security forces attacked sleeping men, women and children without mercy, beating some of them to death. The savagery of the attack outraged the population, prompting huge funeral processions on Friday. Again, crowds were fired on and many wounded, by the American-trained army this time.

Bahrain is considered critical by the US for a number of geopolitical reasons, and it appears that even the crocodile tears shed by Barack Obama over repression in Egypt will not be spilled in this case. As one commentator noted, “As far as Washington is concerned, this small Persian Gulf kingdom may be where support for Middle East democracy dies.”

In any event, the US government over the decades has cooperated with and backed the most horrific regimes on earth, from Franco’s Spain and apartheid South Africa, and governments run by butchers in military uniform in Central and South America, to semi-feudal monarchies in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states, and the rule of mass murderers in Indonesia. American foreign policy has, in fact, sailed upon an ocean of blood and human misery.

The Journal editorial’s hostile comments about the Iranian regime are not driven by any affection for democracy. The editors are sympathetic to Iran’s Green Movement because the latter is a right-wing trend, with strongest support in middle class layers, which criticizes the Ahmadinejad government for not going far enough along the lines of International Monetary Fund-inspired “free market reforms.” A Mousavi-Karroubi regime in Iran would still be a dictatorship, but it would be precisely a “pro-American” dictatorship.

If, however, one were to set aside the Journal’s self-serving claims about Iran, what is one to make of the fact that a leading American publication openly makes the case for supporting dictatorship?

In this the Journal speaks, although perhaps more brazenly and openly than some, for the American ruling elite as a whole. The editors of the New York Times would not disagree, although they might approach the matter somewhat more gingerly … and underhandedly. The Obama administration proceeds in a similar fashion, cynically registering its “alarm” and “deep concern” about each successive atrocity carried out by its dictatorial client states.

The chatter of the Journal’s editors about “moral scruples” is just that. The Wall Street Journal appraises a given foreign government according to the most cynical Realpolitik: does it assist or stand in the way of American global interests? After the fact, the newspaper finds virtues and “moral scruples” in those governments that do—or rather, their supposed virtue lies precisely in their subservience to US strategic aims.

Bill Moyers: America Can't Deal With Reality — We Must Be Exposed to the Truth, Even If It Hurts

By Bill Moyers

Posted on February 15, 2011
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History Makers is an organization of broadcasters and producers from around the world concerned with the challenges and opportunities faced by factual broadcasting. Bill Moyers was the keynote speaker at the 2011 convention on January 27, 2011, in New York City.

I talked about this gathering when I was in California this past weekend and spent time with a good friend and supporter of my own work on television, Paul Orfalea. He’s the maverick entrepreneur who founded Kinko’s in a former hamburger stand with one small rented Xerox copier and turned it into a business service empire with more than two billion dollars a year in revenue. After selling Kinko’s, Paul became one of the most popular, if unorthodox, teachers of undergraduates at the University of California/ Santa Barbara. When I told him what I would be doing today he applauded and understood immediately the importance of what you do. He described to me how he teaches history “backwards” to college students who have learned little about the past in high school, don’t know that the past is even alive, much less that it lives in them and question its value today. He hands his students a contemporary story from some daily news source, tells them to begin with the “now” of it and to then walk the trail back down the chronology to trace the personalities, circumstances and choices that made it today’s news. Their assignment, in effect, is to begin at the entrance to the cave and rewind Ariadne’s thread in the opposite direction, back to the deep origins of the story. In an era marked by the lack of continuity and community between the generations, this strikes me as an inspired way to stretch young imaginations across the time zones of human experience.

I also had the privilege of witnessing Fred in action. When he was president of “CBS News” and I was the White House press secretary, he would come down from New York on the shuttle and slip in the back door of the White House and along the hall past the Cabinet Room to the private entrance to my office for an hour-or-so chat. I had done some preliminary work at the Office of Education on the future of public television in 1964, and we were soon talking about the medium’s future; he was a true believer in television “that dignifies instead of debases” and of the importance “of at least one channel free of commercials and commercial values.” Little did we know at the time that he would soon quit the job he relished as president of the news division that he and Edward R. Murrow had built. The two of them created “See It Now” and “CBS Reports,” which set the standard for investigative reporting and documentaries of unprecedented power and impact. One of their collaborations was the famous documentary on the demagogic and dangerous Senator Joseph McCarthy. They made the brilliant decision to let McCarthy speak for himself, an entire broadcast’s worth of his bullying words and techniques. McCarthy obligingly hanged himself on national television, far more effectively and fatally than anyone else’s words could. His own words had turned Americans against his demagoguery – something for which the right to this day has never forgiven what they denounced as the “Communist Broadcasting System.” Watching that documentary over and again, I realized that it is through such unhurried honoring of reality that we can approach the myriad and messy truths of human experience. For lasting effect, those truths cannot be forced into the mind of the public; they must be nurtured.

Maybe not. As Joe Keohane reported last year in The Boston Globe, political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency “deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information.” He was reporting on research at the University of Michigan, which found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in new stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts were not curing misinformation. “Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.” You can read the entire article online.

Robert Parry has written, “the truthers” threw out all the evidence of al-Qaeda’s involvement, from contemporaneous calls from hijack victims on the planes to confessions from al-Qaeda leaders both in and out of captivity that they had indeed done it. Then, recycling some of the right’s sophistry techniques, such as using long lists of supposed evidence to overcome the lack of any real evidence, the “truthers” cherry-picked a few supposed “anomalies” to build an “inside-job” story line. Fortunately, this Big Lie never took hold in the public mind. These truthers on the left, if that is where GPS can find them on the political map, are outgunned, outmatched and outshouted by the media apparatus on the right that pounds the public like drone missiles loaded with conspiracy theories and disinformation and accompanied by armadas of outright lies.

George Orwell had warned six decades ago that the corrosion of language goes hand in hand with the corruption of democracy. If he were around today, he would remind us that “like the rattling of a stick inside a swill bucket,” this kind of propaganda engenders a “protective stupidity” almost impossible for facts to penetrate.

Against these tendencies it is an uphill fight to stay the course of factual broadcasting. We have to keep reassuring ourselves and one another that it matters and we have to join forces to defend and safeguard our independence. I learned this early on.

When I collaborated with the producer Sherry Jones on the very first documentary ever about the purchase of government favors by political action committees, we unfurled across the Capitol grounds yard after yard of computer printouts listing campaign contributions to every member of Congress. The broadcast infuriated just about everyone, including old friends of mine who a few years earlier had been allies when I worked at the White House. Congressmen friendly to public television were also outraged, but, I am pleased to report, PBS took the heat without melting.

There are other uses of the disclosures from WikiLeaks admirably compiled by Greg Mitchell in the current edition of The Nation, where the one-time editor of Editor and Publisher performed an important public service by culling the gold from the dust.

Yes! magazine just two days ago:

The rules that the FCC passed in December are vague and weak. The limited protections that were placed on wired connections, the kind you access through your home computer, leave the door open for the phone and cable companies to develop fast and slow lanes on the Web and to favor their own content or applications.

The Internet fight for democracy is a public fight. Come on in!

Bill Moyers is the host of Bill Moyers Journal on PBS.

© 2011 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.




Confessions of a Damned Elitist

WBy Diane G

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Sat Feb 12, 2011 at 15:21:51 PM EST
First off, let me assure you that does not mean I am one of Society’s “Elites.”
ELITE: In sociology as in general usage, the elite is a group of relatively small size, that is dominant within a large society, having a privileged status perceived as being envied by others of a lower line of order.
Me.
If anyone is going to address my Elitism, it may as well be me.
It is utterly exhausting to have people so close to the finish line, but refusing to take that leap of logic and cross over. Its ok to point out the obvious treachery of the right, but taboo in many circles to point out the equal treachery of the so-called left representing us in this Country.
Obama has done more to split the Left in this Country than a thousand Fox New Liars could.
He has divided us into ideologues who cling to a dream, and realists who have discovered partisan politics is a sham.
Bit by bit? The circle grows smaller. For every new connection I seem to make with a kindred, an old one falls away. Its lonely on the fringe. Its hard to be an outsider, an Elitist. Its so much easier to just quit talking, and fit in. But Elitist I remain.
  • I resent the hell out of the fact that ignorance is prized in this country, intelligence dismissed as egg-headed nerdishness, that pile-ons of the celebrity-fail de jour trumps real politic, and that group-think surpasses reasoned individual opinion.
  • I reject partisan politics as an utter sham. Any Candidate that makes it even close to the public has been vetted, and stamped with the seal of Korporate Kleptocracy approval.
  • I am for Nationalizing every Major Company in the Country.
  • I am for Direct Democracy, not Representative Democracy. Representative Democracy sets a Small Group above and apart, and smaller numbers are more easily corrupted.
  • All Education, including the Highest Levels should be Free and Unrestricted, with absolutely no Religious influence whatsoever.
  • I am for dismantling the Military entirely, and removing every US presence in bases from Foreign Lands.
  • I reject Fossil Fuel usage, and think only Green Renewable Energy should be used.
  • I think Pollution of any type should be illegal.
  • I reject Capitalism in any or all of its forms.
  • I believe in dismantling Puritanical norms that defile sex as evil, and promote violence as acceptable.
  • I believe in the Right for Citizens to own and bear arms, for security against any Oligarchy that would choose to take away these rights.
  • I am a commie-pinko, tree-hugging, anarchist, socialism-loving, professional-left ELITIST.
  • There are Damned few of us, and fewer still willing to be Activist Elitists.
  • I refuse to accept the moderate-centrist framing. I will not abdicate my role in pushing the Overton Window further Left.
It has made many bolt for the door.
We need more Damned Elitists, JOIN IN!

DIANE G blogs at The Wild Wild Left.  She also maintains a radio program accessible at blogtalkradio.




Our Friends…

Tearing down the smug rationales for the crimes of our foreign policy

By Diane G

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Crosspost with original at The Wild Wild Left 

Sun Feb 13, 2011 at 10:35:07 AM EST

hair peasant day? Do they cover for us when we are cheating on our wives ripping off other Countries? I mean when its gets up to the “special relationship” phase, do we have an “From Here to Eternity” moment in the surf?


Oh, come onnnnn already!

It certainly does not mean the people of one Nation care about the People of another Nation.

Governments create relationships without ever asking the people what WE think, hell they try and prevent us from even getting to KNOW each other.

I know, its so very complex, it must be so complicated my small plebeian brain cannot possibly comprehend it. Its about Allies, Diane. They are our allies.

Go ahead, explain it to me.

Allies for what, for a common goal? Or is it allies against something else? What is that goal and what are we fighting that wants to stop that goal?

You see, if we grow the food and trade the food, thats one thing, but Capitalism is based on growing it cheap, and charging others MORE for it, so that we get free money for our labors, and our ability to dupe people into thinking our food is worth more than what its worth. If Capitalism means Freedom, it means Freedom to be cheating bastards.

Cars never got cheaper, either.

Governments who put their people before their rich are obviously enemies of the Country.

Well, roll me over in the surf baby and lay a big wet sloppy on me!

DIANE G blogs at The Wild Wild Left. Her eye-opening commentary is also heard via blogtalkradio.