Reflections on Southeast Asia’s [Largely Forgotten] History: The Sino-Vietnamese Conflict

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A soldier of the Vietnam People’s Army armed with an RPG-7 rocket-propelled grenade launcher defending Lang Son in 1979. Wikimedia.


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his guy wanted the "truth" [about a complicated subject] in a short answer. It took me at least ten years, if not more, of long hours of independent research and study to begin to understand where the lies are and how to discover the more nuanced truth. The guy does not want the truth. Don't waste your time. He wants slogans, Just tell him he's right, that's all these people want to hear. China is out to conquer the world with its 11 carrier groups terrorizing the world, 800 bases surrounding every country, threatening to bomb everyone back to the stone age, torturing and killing civilians with impunity, sanctioning and starving to death hundreds of thousands of defenseless children, subverting and destroying countries and societies all over the world. They're most evil...

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As for the Sino-Vietnamese War, it's much more nuanced and complicated. For example, southern Vietnam, including Saigon or Ho Chi Minh City used to be Khmer under Campa rule. It came under Vietnam rule only in the 17th century. For Asians, that's like yesterday. 

When the French started their colonial adventures in Vietnam during the middle of the 19th century, guess who was the biggest anti-colonial hero fighting the French. He's a Chinese by the name of Liu Yongfu, also known as the Black Flag General. I know about him because my mother's side of the family were immigrants from China's Hainan Island living in Saigon. Liu was a borderline bandit living in the mountains with a small personal army. He basically took the scalps of the first two French naval commanders who occupied Tonkin and Hanoi. He was unfortunately not fully supported by the Qing court, and he was abandoned by the Vietnamese government when things got dicey.

Here is his proclamation to the French commander who occupied Hanoi:

"Everyone knows you are thieves. Other nations despise you. Whenever you come to a country, you claim that you have come to preach the faith, but you really wish to stir up the inhabitants with false rumors. You claim that you have come to trade, but in fact you are plotting to take over the country. You act like wild animals. You are as ravenous as tigers and wolves. Ever since you came to Vietnam, you have seized cities and killed governors. Your crimes are as numerous as the hairs on the head. You have taken over the customs and seized the country's revenues. This crime deserves death. The inhabitants have been reduced to misery, and the country is nearly ruined. God and man both loathe you. Heaven and earth both reject you... (and then in the spirit of William Wallace's speech in Braveheart) ... If you are afraid to come (to a pitch battle), cut off the heads of your chief men and present them to me. Then give back the cities you have taken. I am a merciful commander, and I will let you miserable ants live. But if you delay, my army will take your city and kill you all, and not even a blade of grass will mark where you have stood."

The French commander went out to fight and it didn't end well for him or his soldiers.

Aggressive French colonialist naval officer Henri Laurent Rivière, in civilian attire. Defying orders, he took Hanoi. The Vietnamese government, unable to confront Rivière with its own ramshackle army, enlisted the help of Liu Yongfu, whose well-trained and seasoned Black Flag soldiers were to prove a thorn in the side of the French.

The Black Flags had already inflicted one humiliating defeat on a French force commanded by lieutenant de vaisseau Francis Garnier in 1873. The arrogant Rivière would prove their second French scalp. 
Needless to repeat, the communist movement of Vietnam in the person of Ho Chi Minh (Chinese name of Nguyen Tat Thanh) was made possible by the CCP.  Everyone glorified the Viet Minh victory at Dien Bien Phu, but one should remember that the Viet Minh was created in China. It was supplied by communist China. The soldiers were trained by the experienced PLA. China probably also sent hundreds of thousands of soldiers to the front-lines. They had to do so quietly as they did not want to be seen sending soldiers from Korea to Vietnam killing a lot of Western soldiers. The CIA knew about it and certainly have lots of confidential records about it. The US probably based on this information to get involved in Vietnam. They were concerned about the communist domino.

It is a historical fact that North Vietnam in the Vietnam War was strongly supported by China, which sent men, arms, and food during times when China was suffering from embargoes and famines. Part of China's own problems stemmed from its break with the USSR after Stalin's death, when Khruschev began to de-Stalinize. Not only did China lose even its friends in the USSR camp, it lost USSR experts helping it industrialize, and it had to repay all loans in gold to the USSR, meaning it had no cash to buy food from friendly HK smugglers when they needed the food. In any case, China protected North Vietnam by declaring in a secret letter to the US that US soldiers must not cross the 17th Parallel. It was similar to the earlier warning by China to the US not to cross the 38th Parallel. US learned the lesson of the Korean War and never attempted a land attack on North Vietnam.

In 1969, China had a serious border war with the USSR. Just like in the Korean War of 1950 and the Indian Border War of 1962, Soviet soldiers didn't believe that China would fight a war against the nuclear armed USSR for a river island in the middle of nowhere. The Zhenbao Island claimed by both China and Russia would become Chinese territory in the 1995 Sino-Russia Border Agreement. China showed the USSR that it would not be bullied. Not only that, it marked the beginning of the fall of the USSR twenty years later. After the fighting began in 1969, the USSR failed miserably in trying to get the other communist countries and communist parties to condemn China. Even China's archenemy India (following 1962) at the time said that it was the fault of the USSR. In 1969, the USSR was still at the height of its power. When Kosygin tried to call Mao for some diplomacy, the Beijing operator slammed the phone on the Soviet leader. Kosygin eventually had to visit Beijing to stop the hostilities. He was only allowed to conduct diplomacy at the cold and lonely Beijing airport. Full-out war was averted but China did not get bullied. This little action got Nixon's attention and respect. Two years later, Nixon would do his pilgrimage as well, and in the middle of the Cultural Revolution. Trump and his China hawks and the entire Washington Swamp with their apparatchiks somehow in a grand delusional fashion believe that they can bully China today is laughable and self-destructive. Look what hubris can do to people's heads.


Chinese soldiers marching Vietnamese prisoners to holding area.

In this Sino-Soviet conflict, eventually Hanoi would stand on the side of the USSR. Things began to look suspicious to China. The Hanoi government had ceded all South China Sea (SCS) claims to China in 1958. Once it became apparent that final victory of the Vietnam War was at hand in 1975, Hanoi began retracting that agreement. It was completely voided in 1979. By that time, Hanoi had been creating a refugee disaster of the Boat-People, most of whom were ethnic Chinese who had lived in Vietnam for centuries. My mother's side of the family was almost completely ethnically purged from Vietnam. My uncle was a boat-people. Thousands died at sea and in refugee camps. My uncle lived in a sampan for over a year outside of Singapore, being denied entry, eventually ending up in Malaysia's Bidong Island camp. Its nickname in Chinese means dolorous. These are events that happened to my family, not hearsay or lies from the Western MSM.

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Chinese infantryman riding a tank


Given Cambodia's geographical location and its poor historical relationship with Vietnam as a victim of Vietnamese invasion, China has always kept good relations with Cambodia as a counterweight to Vietnam. The communist movement of Cambodia Khmer Rouge was no doubt supported by China, as it was later supported by Cambodia's King Sihanouk, who was very friendly with Beijing, but was ousted by the US supported Lon Nol. After the Vietnam War, border clashes occurred with some regularity between Vietnam and Cambodia. It's not so simple as a flash point of global geopolitics. A lot of Cambodians to this day hate the Vietnamese. At the end of 1978, Vietnam invaded Cambodia and occupied it. Vietnam in effect became the hegemon of SE Asia and the Annam peninsula. 

In 1979, China was just opening up. China established official relations with the US on Jan. 1st. Why did it want to have a war with its neighbor Vietnam? Here is another clue. In 1979, aside from voiding its agreement vis-a-vis SCS with China, Hanoi had given Cam Ranh base to the USSR. Let us not forget that at the time, China and the USSR were not at the best of terms. It takes only a few hours for the Soviet marines to land on Hainan and only minutes for its planes to bomb Hainan's cities. With the backing of the USSR, Vietnam was able to invade Cambodia and kick out the Khmer Rouge, at the time supported by China and less openly by the US as well (TP is absolutely correct in this regard). The balance of power in SE Asia, China's backyard, was thus lost.. Furthermore, far from Western eyes was the intrusion of the Vietnamese into Chinese territory. This is what happens to the affliction of hubris. Vietnam had just defeated the US, conquered Cambodia, and had USSR ships and planes within sight of China's coast. What can China do?


Sino-Viet war 1979

The challenging terrain and dense jungle conditions created a huge logistical headache for the Chinese army.


Chinese border soldiers discovered to their chagrin that some heavily wooded high mountain peaks near the border but within China were quietly occupied by the Vietnamese and fortified. They were very hard to dislodge without great loss of life. Protests obviously went to deaf ears. A few explosions would get some attention. Deng declared his intentions to fight a limited border war with the US and the USSR. Everyone knew what was coming. China knew the area well. It was never surprised by how hard the terrain was. They had been supplying Hanoi through these mountains for years. Even over this difficult terrain, within one month, the Chinese army reached its objective of Lang Son, which was about 150 km of weakly defended easy terrain to Hanoi. Characteristic of how China has fought border wars, the Chinese army unilaterally ended the war and went home, retaking all of the fortified positions occupied earlier by the Vietnamese inside Chinese territory. The Vietnamese would never try that again.

By the end of the war, the Vietnamese had moved most of their army and weapons from Cambodia to defend their capital. Pathet Lao, the Laotian communist movement also helped into existence and success by China was at that time firmly in the USSR and Vietnamese camp. This Sino-Vietnamese border action basically told Pathet Lao "don't fuck with me," and China had a quiet border with Laos ever since. The most important result came from the USSR, which sat around watching their puppy getting kicked. The experience told Vietnam not to depend on big brother in a real fight with China, Cam Ranh notwithstanding. In 1991, upon the fall of the USSR, China and Vietnam signed an agreement on their land border. Laos followed suit shortly after. China's one-month border action basically guaranteed peace for the SE Asian peninsula ever since.

This view is very different from the one we read in the MSM. It looks deeper into history and about other events around the world at the time. It may not be complete. It may not even be 100% accurate. But it's more than what MSM can provide. It's certainly not short enough to satisfy morons who live and die by slogans like "hope," "change," or make some limp prick big again. 

It's stressful to learn the truth and sometimes to tell the truth, but that's what we do at CWG (China Writers Group).

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Episode 112 of Blowback: Exposing Imperial Decline with special guests Max Parry and Charles McKelvey. The primary topic for today's program is what we should expect from the incoming Trump administration, including the strategies that Trump should employ in order to advance his MAGA agenda. Below is the latest article from Dr. McKelvey which addresses these issues: https://charlesmckelvey.substack.com/...

Addendum

What Trump should do now

Key steps necessary for the consolidation of the MAGA revolution
 

For some inscrutable reason, Trump seems to reach the disaffected masses. 


During the last two and one-half years, I have maintained in this column that a non-violent revolution in the USA is possible.  I define revolution as the taking of political power—the taking of control of the principal governing institutions of the nation—by an underdog, non-elite class, taking political power from the hands of the power elite.  And I have maintained that in order to take political power, a movement for change must reconceptualize American ideology, drawing from strains of both the Left and Right, attaining supporters from both ideological bands and attaining power through established electoral procedures, imperfect though they are; seizing the opportunity provided by the decadence of the American power elite, which has betrayed the nation and the people through Cold War ideologies, neoliberalism, neoconservatism, and globalism, rendering itself incapable of constructively addressing national problems. 

     There will be some who say that the Republican victory was aided by the mediocrity and lack of political substance of the Democratic presidential candidate.  Indeed so.  But the selection of Kamala Harris to head the Democratic ticket was itself a consequence of the decadence of the political establishment. 

     There are some who claim that Donald Trump and the MAGA movement are fascist.  But this charge is politically motivated, not rooted in careful observation and consideration of the proposals being put forth.  And it is belied by the fact that Trump has been gaining ground with women, Latinos, and blacks.  Indeed, it today can reasonably be said the Trump is forging a multi-ethnic coalition against the political establishment, urban liberals, and the woke Left. 

     Donald Trump refers to MAGA as a political movement, and it is.  But we can now say more.  With the electoral triumph of 2024, the MAGA movement possibly establishes itself as a triumphant people’s revolution, inasmuch as it is a movement formed by middle America and the lower middle and working classes, which has taken political power on the basis of a declared agenda in opposition to the policies of the past forty-five years implemented by the power elite and its upper-middle-class allies. 

     As a result of the gains in the 2024 elections, and the judicial appointments of the first Trump administration, the MAGA movement now has control of the executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the federal government.  It does not, however, control the agencies of the federal government bureaucracy, nor does it control the major media of communication and the universities.  If the second Trump administration and the evolving MAGA movement are true to their mission, the control of these institutions will be the next terrain of struggle, concerning which I will comment further below. 

     When a revolution takes power, it enters a new stage.  It now must struggle to maintain itself in power against powerful enemies, by increasing its support among the people through the implementation of its promises and through successful results.  This would be possible for the MAGA movement, if it acts with political intelligence. 

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What should the Trump administration do?

     Thirdly, in accordance with its promise to avoid endless wars, prevent World War III, and restore the policy of peace through strength, the Trump administration ought to seek peace with China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, if not on a basis of cooperation, at least peaceful coexistence.  This will not be hard to do, as Trump intuits, because these nations are committed to mutually beneficial trade with the nations of the West, including the United States.  A foreign policy of peace and cooperation would significantly increase the prospects for success for the Trump plan to develop the national economy, because it would make possible commercial agreements that would benefit the American economy.

     In the case of China, tariffs can be imposed on Chinese products, not as an economic war, but on the basis of sustained negotiations with China, seeking agreements that are beneficial to the economic development of both. 

     With respect to Israel, taking into consideration its historic special relation with the Jewish people and Israel, the United States ought to continue to provide military support and protection for Israel, but it should do so with commitment to the internationally recognized two-state solution, which recognizes Palestinian state control over its territory, defined by its pre-1967 borders, and including East Jerusalem as its capital.

     Fourthly, the United States must make peace with Cuba and Venezuela.  Up to now, Trump and the MAGA movement have not shown any disposition toward cooperation with the nations of Latin America that have declared for the construction of socialism.  But peace with these nations would be consistent with the MAGA orientation of not involving the USA in the political dynamics of the nations of the world, and focusing instead on the development of a strong military that is capable of defending the national territory of the United States, and on the development of a productive economy capable of ensuring the prosperity of the nation.  Cuba and Venezuela are not a threat to the national security of the USA.   A policy of economic sanctions against these nations damages the American economy and American prestige.  The USA should be confident in its ability to develop its productive capacities and to trade profitably with all the nations of Latin America and the Caribbean, without the need for coercive measures.  Peace with Cuba and Venezuela would represent a logical evolution from the positions that the MAGA movement already has taken.  And it could be an important gesture in the consolidation of the MAGA revolution.

     The reported selection of Marco Rubio as Secretary of State is not a good sign with respect to the hope that the Trump administration will seek peace and cooperation with China, Russia, Iran, Venezuela, and Cuba.  But we must wait and see.  The triumph of the MAGA revolution establishes a new political context.  Should the administration revitalize a neoconservative agenda, it would seriously jeopardize the prospects for the consolidation of the MAGA revolution.

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The battles on the horizon

     The Trump administration must seek to control the federal government bureaucracy.  I like what former independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who is now part of the Trump team and MAGA movement, has to say on the matter.  RFK Jr. maintains that the great majority of the employees of the federal government are patriotic Americans.  The problem is that the officials at the top levels of the regulatory agencies have permitted them to be captured by the industries that they are supposed to regulate.  Kennedy calls for executive appointments to the highest levels of the agencies of persons who are dedicated to the true mission of regulatory agencies, and who are morally and intellectually capable of holding back the corrupting influence of the corporations.  A battle on this front will likely be waged in the first year of the Trump administration, but in light of its control of the three branches of the federal government, the administration ought to be able to advance in this area, seeking to return the agencies to appropriate administrative control by the President and legislative supervision by the Congress.  It has been reported in recent days that Kennedy has prepared a list of more than 600 persons as possible appointments to the high levels of the government bureaucracy.

     In recent days, a Trump video appeared on X, in which the President-elect declares that the administration will transform the system of higher education through the redirection of the accreditation system, dismissing current accreditors and replacing them with new accreditors, selected through an application process.  The new system will impose real standards, including defending the American tradition and Western civilization, protecting free speech, and eliminating wasteful administrative positions, including diversity, equity, and inclusion bureaucrats.  The new accreditors will be oriented to supporting programs of accelerated low-cost degrees and effective job placement and career services.  The new accrediting system will expect entrance and exit exams, so that colleges can show that students have learned.  In addition, Trump announced that he will direct the Department of Justice to pursue federal civil rights cases against schools that continue to practice racial discrimination under the guise of equity. 

     It has been reported in recent days that Trump plans to eliminate the Department of Education, turning the direction and support of education over to the states, where it constitutionally belongs.  If true, this would be consistent with the principle of federalism.  However, it seems to me that this could have chaotic consequences, and thus it would be an example of overreach, which is a common error in revolutionary processes.  Perhaps it would be better to reduce the Department of Education and redefine its mission.

     The bias of the “legacy media” is evident to the majority of the people.  At the same time, the development of an alternative media has been underway for some time, financed by wealthy individuals with a conservative perspective.  In addition, podcasts have gained influence, because they enable public figures and intellectuals to present in an unedited form their proposals and ideas, without being filtered by the establishment media.  Moreover, it would be possible for the administration to expand support for public television and radio, expecting news reporting that is balanced, objective, and based on standards of truth.  In the future, high quality public media could be a possible means for the conducting of low-cost election campaigns.

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Final considerations

     The evolution of the Left from the 1960s New Left to identity politics to post-modern dismissal of objective truth and to the incivility of the toxic woke Left has rendered it unable to effectively critique the political establishment’s abandonment of the development of the productivity of the American economy, and unable to critique the continued application of imperialist policies in an epoch in which imperialism could no longer promote American national interests.  The Left therefore conceded to right-wing populism the political space for the taking of power, attaining the support of the people through a broad-based critique of the political establishment and through calls for increasing the economic productivity of the nation, managing better the national borders, and opposing imperialist overreach in world affairs.  If the MAGA movement can consolidate its power through politically intelligent policies and economic success, the woke Left might begin irreversible decline, giving rise to a renewal of reasonable leftist currents that recently have been ignored, such as Catholic social thought and other religion-based defenses of social justice.


ABOUT CHARLES McKELVEY
I am a retired professor from the United States, now living mostly in socialist Cuba.  I consider myself a Marxist-Leninist-Fidelist-Chavist revolutionary.  I believe that the project of Marx has evolved in theory and practice through various stages: the Russian Revolution, led by Lenin; the Cuban Revolution, led by Fidel; and the project of “socialism for the twenty-first century,” declared by Chávez.  The phrase Marxist-Leninist-Fidelist-Chavist is a shorthand expression: Marx was accompanied by Engels; Lenin, by Trotsky; in addition to Fidel, there was Ho Chi Minh and a host of leaders of movements of national liberation in Asia, Africa and Latin America during the middle decades of the twentieth century; and with Chávez have been Evo Morales of Bolivia, Rafael Correa of Ecuador, and others.  As an intellectual and revolutionary, I am committed to seeking to make a contribution to the development of the subjective conditions that would make possible a popular revolution in my own country, the United States.  

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All My Homies Support Hamas

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Countries that condemn Hamas in black. This is just another map of the Whte Empire.


Hamas is a bad word in America, but consider the source. Why on earth would you care what America says? Have you not seen their deeds? America has killed at least 4 million people this century, dropped nukes on civilians, and are committing genocide right now. America is the wolf crying wolf, why would you believe them? I know that supporting Hamas is proscribed in the imperial core, but I don't live there, most people don't live there, and I give a fuck about the thoughtcrimes of war criminals. Hamas is not recognized as a terror organization in most of the world because it's not.

I won't explain Hamas in detail here, read a fucking book. My point here is to read a map, and read the room. Most of the world does not condemn Hamas. The only people calling Hamas a terror organization are the most terrible people on earth, who have lied to all of us for centuries. Why would I take the word of people committing genocide against the people fighting genocide? I believe my eyes, not the lies of those who have been lying to me about every war.

It is said, those who are in solidarity with our corpses and not our rockets are hypocrites, and not of us.” I think that sums it up. I am not worth the dust on a single fighter's sandals, but I am not a hypocrite. My scales will be light on the day of judgment, but they won't be empty. I do not support Palestinian resistance while condemning the Palestinian Resistance. I do not piously cross myself out, as so many in the Western world do. But I understand where they're coming from. These are deeply oppressed people undergoing a historic repression of speech. Someone should liberate them.

As Upton Sinclair said, it's very difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends on him not understanding it. Throughout the White Empire, your job, your education, your life and livelihood depend on 'not supporting terrorism' (as defined by baby-killers). These people are powerful, these people are petty, and defying them is a real problem. They have made examples out of university presidents, university professors, and their own children who dared protest. Palestinian children in America have been paralyzed, stabbed, and near drowned. If you seriously question this, they will send men in Under Armour (Feds don't dress well anymore) to question you. If you take direct action, they will arrest you. And if you dare resist or just exist in Palestine itself, they will torture and kill you. They'll kill your whole family. They'll starve and sicken you to death in front of the whole world because they want the world to watch. Every massacre is a message.

You are ordered to be terrified of resistance. That is the rules-based order. Some amorphous, obviously amoral they rules, and everyone else takes orders from them. They order you to be afraid of Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, Russia, China, and anyone who stands up. If you want to keep your petty privileges, you need to STFU and sit down. Maybe, they'll let you hold your watermelon pin or scarf, but anything serious will be dealt with. You can oppose the state all you want as long as you also oppose the enemies of state, thus piously cancelling yourself out. At best you can say Free Palestine!, as long as you condemn the actual freedom fighters. Any serious opinion or, god forbid, action will have serious consequences. So I get where western hypocrites are coming from. It is very difficult to understand something when your salt depends on you not understanding it. I am not unsympathetic to the plight of imperial citizens. I just find it pathetic.

Meanwhile, across the more free world (not the Free World™), all of my homies support Hamas. We have been watching Empire commit wild-eyed genocide for a year and watching Hamas resist them with great discipline. We have seen the men of the Axis of Resistance fighting bravely, honorably, and more than proportionately, while the cowardly White Empire slaughters men, women, and children and runs from men in the field. Everybody now hates 'Israel' and America and nobody believes their corrupt media and politicians. These are people with a lower approval rating than cancer asking us to disapprove of actual heroes. I do not give a fuck who these hateful people tell me to hate, but I understand that I am privileged in the provinces. I am relatively free by virtue of being far. I cannot judge people in very different circumstances (though I do anyways).

If you live in the imperial core and are interested in opening your eyes, I must honestly discourage it. Ignorance is bliss. Take the blue pill and chill. They are martyring people every day for resistance, they will bother you in the imperial core, which can feel like martyrdom to the soft. Forget missing your Starbucks between work, you can actually lose your job for certain thoughts. I won't invite you to Read Resistance yourself, but the link is there if you want it. But be forewarned that these are proscribed thoughts from proscribed organizations. Don't stick your proboscis in it without thinking about it.

Understand that there is no free speech under the White Empire. If you're saying or even thinking anything they literally proscribe, they'll make you pay for it. I have paid for my beliefs and may pay more, but I wear this as a badge of pride and vainglory. My FBI file is the closest I'll get to an award. I have lost money and metrics while people have lost everything, but I have at least offered something. There is no solidarity without sacrifice. As they say, “those who are in solidarity with our corpses and not our rockets are hypocrites, and not of us.” I am a coward but not a hypocrite, and I take small comfort in this.

But I don't begrudge the creatures of the imperial core, reluctant to lose their creature comforts. Stay in your world as I now must stay in mine (because I can't travel reliably). Just understand that the global majority does not condemn Hamas. On the contrary, we commend them. They are ghetto superstars, and October 7th was a great ghetto uprising. Long live the Resistance, death to 'Israel', death to America. And Godspeed to Hamas, and all the spokes of the Axis of Resistance. Speaking of this is illegal in the White Empire, but what do I care? I don't live there, and the Empire is dying not soon enough.



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Nuclear Policy and Naval Decline

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OLIVER BOYD-BARRETT
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Nuclear Policy and Naval Decline

Russia has developed a whole family of new hypersonic missiles, including the Zircon and the Oreshnik, featured in the picture below.


Russia's Oreshnik "intermediate"-range missile, said to be "NATO-proof"— is forcing a change in the calculus of provocations by the West.


I am recycling two significant reports this weekend from distinguished sources. The first is from Gilbert Doctorow and is a very useful breakdown of the main features of Russia’s revised nuclear weapons policy. The second is a report from Kit Klarenberg on the weak state of the British Royal Navy.

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By Gilbert Doctorow on November 24, 2024 (Doctorow)

The first and most important thing that one can say about Russia’s new doctrine on nuclear deterrence and the circumstances under which Russia foresees use of its nuclear arsenal against adversaries is the following:  it has been tailor-made to fit the situation in which Russia finds itself today with respect to the United States and its NATO allies.

The doctrine is couched in abstract language without naming names, but behind every clause you can identify a specific threat to Russia that the United States and its allies have been implementing these past few years. The logic flowing from this is that if and when the strategy and/or tactics of the adversary changes, then there will be appropriate modifications to the doctrine.

The doctrine itself has two parts to it.

‘The field of nuclear deterrence’ is what we read as the title of the Decree and ‘the essence of nuclear deterrence’ is the most lengthy and detailed part of the document, laid out in paragraphs 9 to 17,

The second part, entitled ‘conditions for the Russian Federation to shift to use of nuclear weapons’ is set out in paragraphs 18 to 21. This is much more concise.  

Let us look at each of these parts in turn.

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Deterrence

The single biggest change in Russia’s nuclear doctrine is found in the very first article (9) which describes the ‘potential adversary’ to be deterred as

states and military coalitions (blocs, alliances) that are viewed by the Russian Federation as a potential adversary and which possess nuclear and/or other forms of weapons of mass destruction or significant fighting potential in conventional forces.’

Nuclear deterrence will also be applied with respect to

‘states which make available their territory, air and/or marine space and resources to prepare for and execute aggression against the Russian Federation.’

This is directly complemented by article 10 which explains that

Aggression of any state within a military coalition (bloc, alliance) against the Russian Federation and/or its allies is viewed as aggression of this coalition as a whole.’

The foregoing is absolutely new and binds the United States and NATO countries more closely together in a common fate than the famous Article 5 of the NATO Treaty. Article 5 of that treaty provides for the common defense of the signatory countries.  Articles 9 and 10 of the Russian doctrine provide, as we see in part two of the doctrine, for Russian attack on any of them it chooses should one or more of them attack the Russian Federation and/or its allies directly or indirectly.

The Oreshnik missile system whose existence Putin disclosed on Thursday has Multiple Independently-targetable Reentry Vehicles (MIRVs).

Article 11 sets out what Vladimir Putin had said to a reporter first on 12 September and then repeated when he addressed Russia’s Security Council on 25 September:

Aggression against the Russian Federation and/or its allies coming from any non-nuclear state with the participation or support of a nuclear state is viewed as their combined attack.’

This is explicitly directed against the policy of the United States to wage proxy wars so as to inflict damage and possibly defeat a perceived adversary while expecting to avoid being identified as a co- belligerent. It is, of course, drawn from Russia’s experience in the current war in and about Ukraine.

Note the mention of Russia’s allies as also being covered with its nuclear umbrella. Until recently this sounded like an empty piece of rhetoric. ‘What allies?’ one might ask. But the conclusion of a mutual defense treaty with North Korea leaves no doubt that Russia’s nuclear umbrella is part of their deal. Separate statements coming from both Minsk and Moscow tell us that the nuclear umbrella now covers Belarus. De facto we may suppose that the same goes for Iran, though properly speaking no mutual defense treaty has yet been signed with Teheran.

Article 12 says the purpose of nuclear deterrence is to ensure that potential adversaries ‘understand the unavoidability of retaliation in case they commit aggression against the Russian Federation and/or its allies.’

The next article worthy of our attention is 15, which sets out in subclauses a list of military dangers which, depending on changing military-political and strategic circumstances, can grow into military threats to / aggression against the Russian Federation. These are all explicitly cases where ‘neutralization’ requires nuclear deterrence to be applied.

Note as you review the list below that there is something akin here to the formulation of the Wolfowitz doctrine in the USA wherein the potential of an adversary is equated with malicious intent that must be stymied.

  1. The potential adversary’s having nuclear and/or other forms of weapons of mass destruction which could be applied against the Russian Federation and/or its allies, as well as the means to deliver these kinds of arms

  2. The potential adversary’s having and deploying air defenses including ABMs, medium and lesser range cruise and ballistic missiles, high precision conventional and hypersonic weapons, offensive drones variously based, directed energy weapons that could be used against the Russian Federation.

  3. The buildup by a potential adversary along territory bordering the Russian Federation and its allies or in nearby waters of groups of general-purpose military forces which possess the means to deliver a nuclear strike and/or the military infrastructure enabling such an attack.

  • The creation by a potential adversary of anti-missile defense equipment, attack weapons and satellite-killer equipment and his positioning this in outer space

  • Positioning of nuclear weapons and the means of their delivery on the territory of non-nuclear states

  • The creation of new or expansion of existing military coalitions (blocs, alliances) resulting in their military infrastructure drawing closer to the borders of the Russian Federation

  • Actions by a potential adversary directed at isolating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, including blocking access to vitally important transport communications

  • Actions by a potential adversary directed at defeating (destroying) environmentally dangerous infrastructure of the Russian Federation which might lead to manmade, ecological or social catastrophes.

  • The potential adversary’s planning and carrying out large-scale military training exercises near the borders of the Russian Federation.

  • The uncontrolled spread of weapons of mass destruction, means of their delivery, technologies and equipment for their preparation.

  • The potential adversary’s having and deploying air defense including ABMs, medium and lesser range cruise and ballistic missiles, high precision conventional and hypersonic weapons, offensive drones variously based, directed energy weapons that could be used against the Russian Federation.

It is worth remarking that many of the items in the list reflect directly what the United States and its NATO allies have done already or are talking about.  Among them are a blockade of Kaliningrad, the positioning of NATO infrastructures close to the Russian border, holding war games close to Russia’s borders. The remarks in point h above surely refers to attacks on nuclear power stations, which Ukraine has done using drones and Soviet era missiles.    Other items, particularly those that one might call a restoration of Reagan’s Star Wars plans are among the stated intentions of Donald Trump once he takes office and their inclusion in the list may be interpreted as a clear message to Trump to rethink this strategy if he wants to make peace with Russia.

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Conditions under which the Russian Federation moves from deterrence to nuclear strikes

Here some of the conditions were taken over from previous iterations of the nuclear doctrine, in particular what we read in article 18: a retaliatory attack for use of nuclear weapons or other weapons of mass destruction against Russia and its allies, Here we also read that conventional weapons attack on Russia and/or Belarus can trigger a nuclear response if there is a ‘critical threat to their sovereignty and/or territorial integrity.’  The mention of ‘territorial integrity’ is a new condition.

Article 19 lists other conditions that could allow for Russia to use its nuclear arsenal:

  1. Reliable information about the launch of ballistic rockets attacking the territory of the Russian Federation and/or its allies

  2. The use by an adversary of nuclear or other forms of weapons of mass destruction on the territory of the Russian Federation and/or its allies against troop formations and/or infrastructure located outside its territory.

[note: this is new]

  • Action by an adversary against critically important state or military infrastructure of the Russian Federation which, if knocked out, will disrupt retaliatory moves of the nuclear forces

  • Aggression against the Russian Federation and/or the Republic of Belarus using conventional weapons that create a critical threat to their sovereignty and/or territorial integrity

[here, too, ‘territorial integrity’ is a concept introduced in this iteration of the doctrine]

  • Receipt of reliable information about a massive launch (take-off) in an air and space attack (strategic and tactical aircraft, cruise missiles, drones, hypersonic and other aircraft and their crossing the borders of the Russian Federation

 

(II)


 

Klarenberg) 

On November 15th, The Times published a remarkable report, revealing serious “questions” are being asked about the viability of Britain’s two flagship aircraft carriers, at the highest levels of London’s defence establishment. Such perspectives would have been unmentionable mere months ago. Yet, subsequent reportingseemingly confirms the vessels are for the chop. Should that come to pass, it will represent an absolutely crushing, historic defeat for the Royal Navy - and the US Empire in turn - without a single shot fired.


A THING OF BEAUTY, PERHAPS, BUT D.O.A. The Royal Navy's new aircraft carrier HMS Queen Elizabeth is essentially a "vanity job" doomed to be sunk in any modern conflict within hours or even minutes. The new age of hypersonic missiles has rendered all surface fleets highly vulnerable to attack by even "lesser powers" (i.e., the Houthis, Iran, etc.) and eventually obsolete as reliable tools of war.


press release boasting that the carrier would be deployed “in every ocean around the world over the next five decades.” The pair were and remain the biggest and most expensive ships built in British history, costing close to $8 billion combined. Ongoing operational costs are likewise vast.

Fast forward to today however, and British ministers and military chiefs are, per The Times, “under immense pressure to make billions of pounds’ worth of savings,” with major “casualties” certain. Resultantly, senior Ministry of Defence and Treasury officials are considering scrapping at least one of the carriers, if not both. The reason is simple - “in most war games, the carriers get sunk,” and are “particularly vulnerable to missiles.” As such, the pair are now widely perceived as the “Royal Navy’s weak link.”

DF-17, “can evade existing missile defence systems,” its “range, speed and manoeuvrability” making it a “formidable weapon” neither Britain nor the US can adequately counter.

China’s DF-17

Chinese DF-17 glider launcher on exhibit in Beijing in 2022. (Yiyuanju, Wikimedia Commons, CC BY-SA 4.0)


Savill advocated “cutting one or both of the carriers,” as this “would free up people and running costs and those could be reinvested in the running costs of the rest of the fleet and easing the stresses on personnel”. Nonetheless, he warned that scrapping the carriers would be a “big deal for a navy that has designed itself around those carriers…and that the £6.2 billion paid for them would be a sunk cost.”

That the Royal Navy has “designed itself” around the two carriers is an understatement. For just one to set sail, it must be supported by a strike group consisting of two Type 45 destroyers for air defence, two Type 23 frigates for anti-submarine warfare, a submarine, a fleet tanker and a support ship. This “full-fat protective approach”, Savill lamented, means “most of the deployable Royal Navy” must accompany a single carrier at any given time:

“You can protect the carriers, but then the Navy has put all of its eggs in a particularly large and expensive basket.”

‘National Embarrassment’

March 2021 saw the publication of a long-awaited report, Global Britain in a Competitive Age - “a comprehensive articulation” of London’s “national security and international policy,” intended to “[shape] the open international order of the future.” The two aircraft carriers loomed large in its contents. One passage referred to how HMS Queen Elizabeth would soon lead Britain’s “most ambitious global deployment for two decades, visiting the Mediterranean, the Middle East and the Indo-Pacific”:

“She will demonstrate our interoperability with allies and partners - in particular the US - and our ability to project cutting-edge military power in support of NATO and international maritime security. Her deployment will also help the government to deepen our diplomatic and prosperity links with allies and partners worldwide.”

July 1998 strategic defence review, initiated a year earlier by then-prime minister Tony Blair. Its findings kickstarted London’s quest to acquire world-leading aircraft carriers, which culminated with the birth of HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Prince of Wales. Britain’s explicit objective, directly inspired by the US Empire’s dependence on carriers to belligerently project its diplomatic, economic, military and political interests abroad, was to recover London’s role as world police officer, and audaciously assert herself overseas:

“In the post-Cold War world, we must be prepared to go to the crisis, rather than have the crisis come to us. So we plan to buy two new larger aircraft carriers to project power more flexibly around the world…This will give us a fully independent ability to deploy a powerful combat force to potential trouble spots without waiting for basing agreements on other countries’ territory. We will…be poised in international waters and most effectively back up diplomacy with the threat of force.”

NATO allies, and docked in dozens of countries. Press coverage was universally fawning. Yet, in November, as the excursion was nearing its end, an F-35 fighter launched from the carrier unceremoniously crashed.

Royal Navy engineers attempt to rescue a downed F-35, November 2021

has cost US taxpayers close to $2 trillion, entered into active service in 2006 while still under development.hazardous unreliability. In 2015, a Pentagon report acknowledged its severe structural issues, limited service life and low flight-time capacity. Two years later, the Department of Defense quietly admitted the US Joint Program Office had been secretly recategorising F-35 failure incidents to make the plane appear safe to fly. 

dubbed these regular “jet-less” forays a “national embarrassment”.

‘Carrier Gap’

been plagued with endless technical and mechanical issues as long as they’ve been in service. have spent  considerably more time docked and under repair than at sea over their brief lifetimes. In 2020, an entire HMS Prince of Wales crew accommodation block collapsed, for reasons unclear.

acknowledged in March 2024, “the Royal Navy remains unable to adequately defend or operate” its two carriers “independently” - code for the Empire being consistently compelled to deploy its own naval and air assets to support the pair. This is quite some failure, given British officials originally intended for the vessels to not only lead NATO exercises and deployments, but “slot into” US navy operations wherever and whenever necessary.

has precipitated a critical “carrier gap”. Despite maintaining an 11-strong [carrier] fleet, Washington cannot deploy the vessels to every global flashpoint at once, grievously undermining her power and influence at a time of tremendous upheaval worldwide. In a bitter irony, by encouraging and facilitating London’s emulation of its own flawed and outdated reliance on aircraft carriers, the US has inadvertently birthed yet another needy imperial dependant, further draining its already fatally overstretched military resources.

Operation Prosperity Guardian, launched in late 2023 to smash AnsarAllah’s righteous anti-genocide Red Sea blockade. Almost immediately, it became apparent the British lacked any ability to fire on land targets, therefore rendering their participation completely useless. Subsequently, photos emerged of areas on Britain’s ships where land attack cruise missiles should’ve been situated. Instead, the spaces were occupied by humble treadmills, for use as on-board gyms.

unable to meet modern warfare’s most basic challenges. Meanwhile, its adversaries near and far have remorselessly innovated, equipping themselves for 21st century battle.

became awash with reports of savage cutbacks in Britain’s military capabilities, in advance of a new strategic defence review. Five Royal Navy warships, all of which have lain disused due to staffing issues and structural decay for some time, were among the first announced “casualties”. What if anything will replace these losses isn’t certain, although it likely won’t be aircraft carriers.

 
 

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